Mrs. KPW,
Since I don't have issues with Gays/Robby's Sexuality, I didn't see it as an issue. Last I checked, Robby himself has identified himself as a Gay Black Man and since I was not demeaning/belittling him or his sexuality in any manner, I really am confused. I simply outlined the issues that he is still challenged with as a 40+ year old HUMAN.
As to what he said -- ("Listen, save the chicken neck, finger popping, and eye rolling for someone on your level or beneath you") is belittling to every Black Woman. Furthermore, it is the very SUB STANDARD approach that many Whites use to rationalize their thoughts of Black Women as being "less than" and it is the same core variables utilized when Black Women are looked at as being Aggressive and White Women are looked at as Assertive when they speak up/take a stance. We are not going to perpetuate this downgrade because he thinks he knows more and he is "asserting" his "superiority"!
That's why he kept his drawbridge closed and stayed in his Air Conditioned Castle where his imaginary subjects will obey and genuflect!! And by the way, Robby ain't saying nothing that 1000 others wouldn't be saying - there is just no need to be redundant. His VALUE is that he just happens to be 1 more to help pull the BARN down!! And if he wants to take lead on this, let him. Let him lead the charge. I am sure that Leroy Hall won't mind him carrying the Torch!! There is enough work to go around to fight over who does what.
Actually, I am surprised that you didn't see this for what it is and take it as an offense. Somewhere I think that you have the valuation of ROBBY's worth mixed up and that it is somehow worth more!!! There are lots of people laying quietly in the forest reading who are just as and probably more valuable in some areas especially in capability and contribution than lots of us. Remember the cartoon VOLTRON - all they need to do is connect - and believe it, it is occurring as we write!
Like I always say, Robby knows who to say what to and where. Guaranteed he wouldn't say that in PUBLIC. I know quite a few mature, intelligent, articulate women, especially older ones who would slap the Crap out of him. But then again, what he said just exposed his true view of a Black Woman! And that's a Shame!!
Rob
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:01 AM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:
As moderator, I must ask that we not psychoanalyze someone's rudeness based on their sexuality. Continued rudeness will not be tolerated whether or not one is doing a good job on a particular issue.
Sometimes I have to read people's comments because the remarks are sometimes over the top or they keep doing what I asked them not to do. Some challenge the moderator and try and start a coup as if taking on the moderator gets them somewhere. Some were warned in the past and continuously belittled women.
I took this time to outline the power of the operator and try to make people comfortable. We can take on uncomfortable controversial issues but must be careful talking about individuals. Rudeness is not tolerated no matter what group one identifies with.
I appreciate you trying to bring sanity to unfortunate remarks but leave the psychbabble to experts offline and let's all practice sensitivity and manners to all our readers.
Back to the issues.
Moderator>> **
Rob <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mrs. King,
>
>Robby is a Gay Black Man with a attitude that he is better than the rest.
>While he is pretty smart and has a lot to offer, his attitude is that we
>should just follow the path that he has chosen. Imagine he stereotyped
>Mrs. Alice and her responses. The irony in all of this is that he does
>love DC, our kids, our neighborhoods etc., but an inner conflict causes him
>to project his disdain for his own culture so that he could be accepted by
>others since his own doesn't accept him. After meeting him, his comments
>made more sense.
>
>Like he said, he appreciates life no matter what it costs as he needs
>electric for life so he doesn't mind paying more for it. What he doesn't
>realize is the lady he is poking at is more qualified and experienced than
>he reads. And this is the common practice of intra-carmelized racism. His
>assumptions are exposing. How many times have I pushed him back into his
>Sand Castle, closed his drawbridge so he could be King/Queen over his
>imaginary subjects!
>
>Anyways, this Spingarm Barn Opposition seems to be his willingness, so let
>us wrap out arms around him on this and get it done. Others like me and
>you will take a shot at the larger picture of Street Cars and how much of a
>priority they are!
>
>Rob Ramson
>
>
>
>On Jul 4, 2012 6:59 PM, "Julianne M. Robertson King" <kingjulianne@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>> What on Earth!? Why the disrespect? Why the stereotyping? Why does it
>> always get personal? I'd hate to believe those rumors regarding paid
>> provocateurs on the list serve who post controversial stuff just to keep
>> everyone off base and unable to create solutions. Robby, why are you so
>> angry? I'm really trying to understand the insults and the desire to
>> escalate into hateful speech. I was bored earlier and saw the reference to
>> "fuzzy logic" which is code for: "You people can't think, so let me set
>> you straight.." so we talk, then it turns back into drama. Why? Surely
>> you know how this is received, what is your intention?
>>
>>
>> Julianne M. Robertson King Esq.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> *From:* RobbyCU <RobbyCU@yahoo.com>
>> *To:* "ward5@yahoogroups.com" <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 3:11 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [ward5] Power Outage>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Listen, save the chicken neck, finger popping, and eye rolling for someone
>> on your level or beneath you. As you stated, the infrastructure is old.
>> Where we differ is on the idea of not paying for improvements through
>> rate hikes. I understand in all your attitude you may have missed that as
>> if offen the case when people put on shows vs engaging an issue.
>>
>> See I don't have to retort and tell you where to go, you're already there.
>> Now please share the toys with the other children in the play pin.
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> "In everything you do. Always be yourself"- Lee Hall, Billy Elliot
>>
>>
>> Nixon Farewell Speech to Whitehouse Staff:
>> http://youtu.be/XfNjpHAMy2E
>>
>> *From:* "ajw1@starpower.net" <ajw1@starpower.net>
>> *To:* Ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:58 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [ward5] Power Outage>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> First I understand aging infrastructure in all of America and what is
>> needed more than you could ever begin to guess. There are improvements
>> needed to infrastructure all across this country. An interesting fact some
>> may not hot know is some of DCs pipes that carry drinking water and sewer
>> water are being held up with decaying wood. This is the same infrastructure
>> put in place many years ago.
>> Now that is old and antiquated for you!!. For the record, I advocate for
>> improving how water is delivered and removed every day. I am also for
>> improving on how power reaches the consumer.
>>
>> Now to your response, if you comprehend on at the basic reading level you
>> would realized what I wrote. Your response may have been appropriate for
>> other emails about PEPCO. Let me break it down for you. If you want to
>> support PEPCO do so. If I decide I don't than that is my right. Of course
>> you did not see that I wrote I would make a decision "after" looking
>> further into the issue about line men Again your response was more than
>> about my email-- just a rant. Oh you can kick folk around and can not take
>> it Well just like you can suggest I am short sighted, I can suggest where
>> you can go. My opinion is just as valuable as yours.
>> You are short sighted to jump to a conclusion about me and what I want
>> without the facts. Grow up! Back to the clean up. Life is good.
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>> *From: * RobbyCU <RobbyCU@yahoo.com>
>> *Sender: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:40:23 -0700 (PDT)
>> *To: *ward5@yahoogroups.com<ward5@yahoogroups.com>
>> *ReplyTo: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [ward5] Power Outage>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Actually I don't want you to suggest or tell me where I can go. But I see
>> where you are. Childish thing for childish people.
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> "In everything you do. Always be yourself"- Lee Hall, Billy Elliot
>>
>>
>> Nixon Farewell Speech to Whitehouse Staff:
>> http://youtu.be/XfNjpHAMy2E
>>
>> *From:* "ajw1@starpower.net" <ajw1@starpower.net>
>> *To:* Ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 12:02 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [ward5] Power Outage>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Just answered a call on my cell. Saw your email -- I am busy and a quick
>> glance at your email makes me want to tell you where you can go. Short
>> sighted?!. You don't know my opinion on anything but abouti just said the
>> line men. I indicated I would look this into before action. I was not born
>> yesterday and you are not the only logical or intelligent person on this
>> listserv. Thank you very much. Your response was in reference to several
>> emails that have been floating around. BTW power just came on. Life is
>> good.
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>> *From: * RobbyCU <RobbyCU@yahoo.com>
>> *Sender: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
>> *Date: *Wed, 4 Jul 2012 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT)
>> *To: *ward5@yahoogroups.com<ward5@yahoogroups.com>; Wardfive<
>> wardfive@googlegroups.com>
>> *ReplyTo: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [ward5] Power Outage>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry I must rail against this magical and ultra fuzzy thinking.
>>
>> A. Most utilities wont hire more linemen, they will contract emergency
>> repair work out. You see the trucks all over town. Comcast does the same as
>> well.
>>
>> B. If you don't want to pay more how will they actually improve service.
>>
>>
>> C. It was a really bad storm. What the heck do you all expect? I don't
>> understand the short sightedness.
>>
>>
>> D. The move to put wires underground will help allay a lot of this, but
>> we may all be dead before it's completed and it would cost Billions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________
>>
>> "In everything you do. Always be yourself"- Lee Hall, Billy Elliot
>>
>>
>> Nixon Farewell Speech to Whitehouse Staff:
>> http://youtu.be/XfNjpHAMy2E
>>
>> *From:* "ajw1@starpower.net" <ajw1@starpower.net>
>> *To:* Ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>; Wardfive <wardfive@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 9:41 AM
>> *Subject:* [ward5] Power Outage
>>
>> There are still pockets or neighborhoods without power in Ward 5. PEPECO
>> predicted the power by midnight this am. That definitely did not happen.
>> Folks on my power grid will have one more day without power in 100 degree
>> heat. The new prediction for power restoration is by midnight tomorrow.
>> Fortunately I have had a cool place to stay. Not all of my neighbours have
>> left their homes since Friday. I will spend the holiday tossing out all in
>> freezer and fridge. #*/+@
>> Media reports this has been one of the worst of many recent storms. I
>> heard that PEPCO has not increased the number of line men in many years to
>> accommodate serving its customers whether for general service or an
>> emergency. What are they doing with the money? I will certainly look into
>> this. If true I will be organizing my neighbors to advocate against a rate
>> increase for PEPCO.
>> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>>
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