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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!
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"We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
On that Note,
I Just wanted to say thank you to all those who took the time to come to the cafe and support the Business. It struggles, but so is life. Thank You to those who came and took the time to write some very nice notes as well. I can't tell everyone enough how awesome it is to walk into the Cafe and see friendly faces in there who also live here in the community. Like you said Eric, for the most part, people in there talk to each other and interact warmly - and Race doesn't even matter.
I leave on this note, Every White Person who Stands against Oppression (and in this City - that is directed towards Blacks) erodes away the Walls of Distrust that have been built for 400+ years and brings us even closer to being a true Community.
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Eric <ericindc@yahoo.com> wrote:
No worries man - if we got issue - call me on the carpet...or rather the Cafe and I got the first round of Soda for you :)
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Eric <ericindc@...> wrote:
--- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, Rob <indianrob@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Eric,
>
> LMAO !!! Sorry Fella. I am so accustomed to my other friend Eric J.
> furthering his point in this manner that I wasn't paying attention. My
> Fault. And you are right, your inseam is probably about 60" - My fault
> Mr. Jones. Glad that I didn't intimidate you Fella - smile!!
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
>
> > **> > detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1<http://www.bls.gov/opub/hom/homch1_f.htm>,
> >
> >
> > First - Rob you got the wrong Eric I think and you know me and know that
> > my inseem is way longer than 31...LOL I simply wanted to put a definition
> > to the discussion since we are talking about figures and ways to
> > objectively decide whether or not Obama is doing a good job. Sure, Obama
> > made some promises and some things are out of his control. I was simply
> > putting a definition around the calculation for unemployment.
> >
> > Ms. Henderson - I think you are correct in this respect - the Census takes
> > the data - or I guess you are one of them since you say "we" As for the
> > other information, it is absolutely correct in that I paraphrased the
> > following website for brevity, but I have included the link for you.
> > Please notice the similarity here and what I wrote. If the government
> > website is wrong or I am not looking at the right one, please let me know.
> >
> > http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
> >
> >
> > For everyone else, I have copied a few paragraphs from the website where I
> > got my information.
> >
> >
> >
> > There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This
> > translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared
> > to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The
> > CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population
> > of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties
> > and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025
> > geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and
> > selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent
> > each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design
> > and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and
> > farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a
> > of the BLS *Handbook of Methods*.)> > 1. Does anyone in this household have a business or a farm?
> >
> > Every month, one-fourth of the households in the sample are changed, so
> > that no household is interviewed more than 4 consecutive months. This
> > practice avoids placing too heavy a burden on the households selected for
> > the sample. After a household is interviewed for 4 consecutive months, it
> > leaves the sample for 8 months, and then is again interviewed for the same
> > 4 calendar months a year later, before leaving the sample for good. This
> > procedure results in approximately 75 percent of the sample remaining the
> > same from month to month and 50 percent from year to year.
> >
> > Each month, 2,200 highly trained and experienced Census Bureau employees
> > interview persons in the 60,000 sample households for information on the
> > labor force activities (jobholding and jobseeking) or non-labor force
> > status of the members of these households during the survey reference week
> > (usually the week that includes the 12th of the month). At the time of the
> > first enumeration of a household, the interviewer prepares a roster of the
> > household members, including their personal characteristics (date of birth,
> > sex, race, Hispanic ethnicity, marital status, educational attainment,
> > veteran status, and so on) and their relationships to the person
> > maintaining the household. This information, relating to all household
> > members 15 years of age and over, is entered by the interviewers into
> > laptop computers; at the end of each day's interviewing, the data collected
> > are transmitted to the Census Bureau's central computer in Washington, D.C.
> > (The labor force measures in the CPS pertain to individuals 16 years and
> > over.) In addition, a portion of the sample is interviewed by phone through
> > three central data collection facilities. (Prior to 1994, the interviews
> > were conducted using a paper questionnaire that had to be mailed in by the
> > interviewers each month.)
> >
> > Each person is classified according to the activities he or she engaged in
> > during the reference week. Then, the total numbers are "weighted," or
> > adjusted to independent population estimates (based on updated decennial
> > census results). The weighting takes into account the age, sex, race,
> > Hispanic ethnicity, and State of residence of the person, so that these
> > characteristics are reflected in the proper proportions in the final
> > estimates.
> >
> > The questions used in the interviews are carefully designed to elicit the
> > most accurate picture of each person's labor force activities. Some of the
> > major questions that determine employment status are: (The capitalized
> > words are emphasized when read by the interviewers.)
> >
> > 2. LAST WEEK, did you do ANY work for (either) pay (or profit)?> > 3. LAST WEEK, did you do any unpaid work in the family business or
> > If the answer to question 1 is "yes" and the answer to question 2 is
> > "no," the next question is:> > 4. LAST WEEK, (in addition to the business,) did you have a job,
> > farm?
> > For those who reply "no" to both questions 2 and 3, the next key
> > questions used to determine employment status are:> > 5. LAST WEEK, were you on layoff from a job?
> > either full or part time? Include any job from which you were temporarily
> > absent.
> > 6. What was the main reason you were absent from work LAST WEEK?> > 7. Has your employer given you a date to return to work?
> > For those who respond "yes" to question 5 about being on layoff, the
> > following questions are asked:
> > and, if "no,"
> > 8. Have you been given any indication that you will be recalled to> > 9. Have you been doing anything to find work during the last 4 weeks?
> > work within the next 6 months?
> > If the responses to either question 7 or 8 indicate that the person
> > expects to be recalled from layoff, he or she is counted as unemployed. For
> > those who were reported as having no job or business from which they were
> > absent or on layoff, the next question is:> > 10. What are all of the things you have done to find work during the
> > For those who say "yes," the next question is:> > 11. LAST WEEK, could you have started a job if one had been offered?
> > last 4 weeks?
> > If an active method of looking for work, such as those listed at the
> > beginning of this section, is mentioned, the following question is asked:
> > If there is no reason, except temporary illness, that the person could
> > not take a job, he or she is considered to be not only looking but also
> > available for work and is counted as unemployed.
> >
> >> > --- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, khenderson029@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Your information is not correct. The US Census Bureau collects the
> > information, underscoring that Census serves as the data collectors for the
> > government. Further, the information we ask is confidential and protected
> > by Title 13 and may not be disclosed without risking a fine and or
> > imprisonment. You would have no way of knowing what we ask unless you were
> > interviewed and it does not sound like you were.
> > >
> > > Kathy Henderson
> > > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Eric" ericindc@> > > Sender: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:44:16
> > > To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> > > Reply-To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I did some research on the calculation of unemployment and I found it
> > > very interesting. The unemployment rate is calculated from a
> > > statistical sampling. In a quick nutshell, the Bureau of Labor
> > > Statistics takes a sampling of households through a survey of about 60K
> > > of households. This sample set is designed to select a representative
> > > sample across the country. Every month 1/4 of the sample changes such
> > > that a given household is not tracked for longer than 4 months. Once
> > > you have been sampled for four months, you get an 8 month break and are
> > > back in the sample for another 4 months. After that, you are out for
> > > good. The sample set is random across the country and not based on
> > > people who have filed for unemployment or unemployment benefits. This
> > > is not a full explanation, but you get the point, but here is the real
> > > crazy part of it. When people are surveyed, they are not actually asked
> > > whether or not they are employed. They are asked about their activities
> > > and these activities are "weighted" along with race, age and a number of
> > > other factors. To keep track of these 60K of households, the
> > > government employs over 2,200 people to do this.
> > >
> > > Food for thought.....
> > >
> > > --- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, "Eric J. Jones" ejjones.threed@
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Rob,
> > > >
> > > > If you are going by unemployment you are incorrect, we aren't in any
> > > better
> > > > shape, we are the same. Check the Department of Labors data.
> > > >
> > > > Eric J. Jones
> > > > - ejjones.threed@
> > > > On Sep 6, 2012 9:02 AM, "Rob" indianrob@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So you get the numeric answer - YES, we arw better off 3 years after
> > > the
> > > > > highest unemployment since the Depression - all after a crazy 8 year
> > > reign
> > > > > and a stolen electiin. Now all of our main industry legs are
> > > stabalized
> > > > > and rebounding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Ramson
> > > > > On Sep 6, 2012 8:36 AM, "Rob" indianrob@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Good morning Robby,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Awesome question!! Now where were we exactly "4" years ago? Please
> > > don't
> > > > >> forget to include getting to unemployment rate of 10% in Oct 2009 -
> > > 3 years
> > > > >> ago. So, the question that you and the Republicans should really be
> > > asking
> > > > >> are "Where was our Country headed 3 years ago and where is it
> > > headed now? -
> > > > >> in and out of the beltway.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> At 8.3% current unemployment, we are headed in the right direction
> > > in
> > > > >> less than 3 years. Last I checked, since the Depression, where the
> > > > >> Republicans had us going from 2000 to 2009, was towards that same
> > > level.
> > > > >> So, saving the auto industry (LOTS OF JOBS) and stabalizing
> > > Anti-America
> > > > >> issues just by having the right Name!!!, helped to give us the
> > > breathing
> > > > >> room to turn the economy around.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I am game to continue. So, Please continue with Rhetoric. By the
> > > way,
> > > > >> not basking in "glow of DNC Convention" but appreciating the
> > > beautiful
> > > > >> representation of a cultured/variety of colored filled America vs
> > > one that
> > > > >> is so not inclusive. Also, Hope and Faith may be names to you, but
> > > your
> > > > >> entire "survival now" is here today because your forefathers had
> > > those
> > > > >> "Names" to hang onto.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Looking forward to a better response.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rob Ranson
> > > > >> On Sep 6, 2012 1:19 AM, "RobbyCU" RobbyCU@ wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> **
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Or you have an example of failure. Hope and Faith are great, if
> > > they are
> > > > >>> the first names of people. But here we have a president that
> > > hasn't
> > > > >>> delivered on the gusto he put forth. I like him, really, but he's
> > > failed
> > > > >>> the Clintonian test. We are not better off than we were four years
> > > ago. We
> > > > >>> simply aren't. So while you may bask in the glow of the DNC
> > > convention.
> > > > >>> In the world outside the beltway people are broke, jobless, and
> > > looking for
> > > > >>> change. And that's not change in the President's future.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ___________________________________________
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "In everything you do. Always be yourself"- Lee Hall, Billy Elliot
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Nixon Farewell Speech to Whitehouse Staff:
> > > > >>> http://youtu.be/XfNjpHAMy2E
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ------------------------------
> > > > >>> *From:* Rob indianrob@
> > > > >>> *To:* ward5@yahoogroups.com; Ward 5 Google Groups <
> > > > >>> wardfive@googlegroups.com
> > > > >>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 6, 2012 12:54 AM
> > > > >>> *Subject:* [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Good evening,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Just a thought - Just looking at the diversity being represented
> > > at the
> > > > >>> Democratic Convention compared to "no diversity" at the Republican
> > > > >>> Convention, it is almost impossible to not realize which Party is
> > > most
> > > > >>> representative of America - says the diversity of the audience.
> > > While both
> > > > >>> sides has their faults and plays the game or politics really well,
> > > I am
> > > > >>> just proud that so many have taken the steps towards equality for
> > > > >>> everyone!! So, While Change may have been made difficult over the
> > > last 4
> > > > >>> years, we still survive on FAITH (Belief) AND HOPE (prayer)!!!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> A PICTURE, PERFECT!!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Rob Ramson
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> R. Ramson
> > > > >>> 3744 12th Street, N.E.,
> > > > >>> Washington D.C., 20017
> > > > >>> 202-438-5988
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
> > > > >>> (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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> > > > >>>
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> 3744 12th Street, N.E.,
> Washington D.C., 20017
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> "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
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