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Tuesday, 2 October 2012

[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Fw: ANC 4B Resolution Opposing Crummell School bus depot [1 Attachment]

Hello Vaughn,

Not sure if you know this but I understand that they had a "closed' meeting today with a few residents. Aren't all meetings that affect the residents of a neighborhood to be posted so that full attendance could be allowed and that the meetings should also be open to the public.

Did you or the any of the ANC attend this meeting down at Kenyan's office and if so, what was the outcome??

Rob

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Vaughn Bennett <vaughn_bennett@yahoo.com> wrote:

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I received the email below yesterday.

Vaughn Bennett

--- On Mon, 10/1/12, ANC 4B <dcgovtanc4b@verizon.net> wrote:

From: ANC 4B <dcgovtanc4b@verizon.net>
Subject: ANC 4B Resolution Opposing Crummell School bus depot
To: vincent.gray@dc.gov, victor.hoskins@dc.gov, "Phil Mendelson" <pmendelson@dccouncil.us>
Cc: scatting@comcast.net, vaughn_bennett@yahoo.com, andre.byers@dc.gov, "David Catania" <dcatania@dccouncil.us>, "Jack Evans" <jackevans@dccouncil.us>, "Jim Graham" <jgraham@dccouncil.us>, "Kenyan McDuffie" <kmcduffie@dccouncil.us>, "Marion Barry" <mbarry@dccouncil.us>, "Mary Cheh" <mcheh@dccouncil.us>, "Michael A. Brown" <mbrown@dccouncil.us>, "Muriel Bowser" <mbowser@dccouncil.us>, "Tommy Wells" <twells@dccouncil.us>, "Vincent Orange" <vorange@dccouncil.us>, "Yvette Alexander" <yalexander@dccouncil.us>, fewdcc@gmail.com, yjeffer@yahoo.com, "Doug Sloan" <dougsloan4dc@gmail.com>, fredgrantanc4b03@yahoo.com, "Judi Jones" <cariblamond@yahoo.com>, palmergd1@yahoo.com, "Sara Green" <ancsaragreen@yahoo.com>, "Becks, Valencias S. (EOM)" <valencias.becks@dc.gov>, gottlieb.simon@dc.gov, "Holman, Keith (EOM)" <keith.holman@dc.gov>, "Stephen Glaude" <steve.glaude@dc.gov>
Date: Monday, October 1, 2012, 3:31 PM

Dear Mayor Gray, Deputy Mayor Hoskins, Chairman Mendelson:

The attached letter and resolution from ANC 4B are submitted for your consideration and response.

Thank you.

Advisory Neighborhood Commission 4B
Jim Irwin, Staff Assistant
6856 Eastern Avenue N.W., #314
Washington, D.C. 20012
202-291-6282 – office
www.anc4b.org

　

　

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[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: File - When we are escorting someone to the exit

Mrs. KPW,

This is exactly the direction they want you to head. I have said nothing wrong and this post is something that occurred in Ward 5, to a Ward 5 resident and has impact on what is happening in Ward 5. At the end of the day, you are going to do what you feel you have to do and I respect that. I do not curse or threaten anyone on this listserv and do not deserve to have any place that I am associated with labeled as "unsafe".

As to this post that reflected the TRICKERY that occurred to me, it is the same trickery that is being perpetrated upon our Kids, our Schools, and our overall community. Whenever you choose to "remove" me from this listserv, I would know that I have done my duty to bring certain relative crimes to the forefront of people's mind. Years from now, when your grandkids have no place to call home in this city and do feel the heightened pangs of Racism, know that I have performed above and beyond my duty to have prevented it.

Just know that I don't just write because I don't have anything else to do or that I am bored. I actually take the time out of my day because it will hopefully make a diffenence in my child's life, your grandchild's life and the lives of every other child that my actions touches.

My Father didn't raise a Beggar - do what you have to do.

Rob Ramson.

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:53 AM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:

Rob,

This is the Ward 5 listserv. We don't need to know what the Brookland listserv does. I run this. Try not to skate on thin ice here and take advantage of our desire to allow reasonable discussion of issues without overdoing it. We have nothing to do with the Brookland listserv and their rules, though we are considering using more of their rules to tighten up things a little on this listserv. On this listserv you're not escorted, you're just removed.

KPW

Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
To: Brookland Moderator <Brookland-owner@yahoogroups.com>; ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>; Ward 5 Google Groups <wardfive@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:47 am
Subject: [ward5] Re: File - When we are escorting someone to the exit

DEAR PREJUDICED BROOKLAND@YAHOO LIST SERV MODERATORS,

It is amazing that you can "remove from the listserv" because my posts violates your Terms of Agreement. For almost a year now, I have not been able to post any emails to OUR COMMUNITY"S listserv -- get it, I am on a READ-Only Privilege!!! It looks like you have OUT-FOXED yourself.

At some point, maybe you can stop showing your trickery and prejudice and you know I want to say Racist as I don't know of you allowing anyone Black to be a Moderator - I could be wrong. Furthermore, I have not sent out any "ADVERTISING" via the Brookland@Yahoo listserv as you have attempted to make claim to as "wishing me well with my business endevours" -- so YOU ARE IN A CLEAR VIOLATION of YOUR OWN RULES -- Your Prejudice has been Exposed to our entire community how you truly feel.

Correct me if I am wrong -- pilates and yoga can be sent out whenever but you won't allow someone who cannot posts emails to be part of the listserv even when they are not "posting" business advertising. Interesting. Hilarious but still interesting. Crazy thing is that six or more of you are actually trying to figure out how to put me off the Brookland Listserv legally and this is the Crap you come up with. Guy -- that's why they cut down the trees without telling you anything and I am getting ready to cut some more because I am one of the developers that they sold the back piece of the Monastery to.

As of today, I am still live here in Brookland where some of the other "members" probably don't. I wonder what Yahoo will have to say about this.

Feeling very "violated"

Rob Ramson

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Brookland Moderator <Brookland-owner@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We, the moderators, are doing our best, as volunteers, to keep our neighborhood listserv free of unnecessary advertising bombardment. We do wish you well in your business endeavors. However, we're removing you from the list because your posts violate our Terms of Agreement.

Best of luck to you,

The Brookland Listserv Moderators.

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[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Mrs. KPW,

"The day you open your brain" -- Really -- Wow!!! How many times do we have to explain how insulting it is to ask those questions that she did. And then to have her respond with being "attacked" again - like she did nothing and say that the Cafe is "unsafe" -- really. Am I missing something??

She has no point. Why would she feel "unsafe" there and not anywhere else. The only variable that is not constant in attending a meeting anywhere and the location being "unsafe" is the fact that BCafe is in my Building. What would stop someone from attacking her at any location if a person wanted to do so. I am truly missing something. Just so you, she and everyone else knows, She is Welcome to participate. If she feels that "unsafe", she should not attend. Once again, this is not my meeting. Mr. Peloquin continues to call for this and I had nothing to do with it. However, I support it but will not allow anyone to LABEL THAT LOCATION "UNSAFE". I hope you get that.

So you know, until people open their brain and stop denying Racism, there can be no movement forward. It is amazing that we have now localized Racism to Ward 5 but nothing that we have discussed in the 1.5 years can fit that description -- or of course, everyone was either in "skimming" mode and "don't read the listserv often" excuse. Riiiiight!!

Since you were somewhat unclear of the traffic and parking situation in you email yesterday as it relates to the getting a liquor license without a Protest, I just wanted to share with you and others about the restaurant that will be opening soon on 12th Street between Monroe and Newton -- a much more BUSY street for parking than both the Cafe and Manomale. It also has no parking either and is 2 Blocks closer to the Padous than the Cafe is. I noticed that there was no protest on their liquor license either, question of ownership, parking issues, noise issues or "potential" for noise, parking issues like the Cafe Received so abundantly.

Just so you know, there about 16 business, and a CVS and Murrays on the Corner -- just to give you an idea of amount of businesses and no parking available. Just so you and the rest could get a more clear sight of the Racism that the Cafe incurred for three + years.

I have met the owner and seen the place from the outside. He had invited me to the test run of the food and equiptment but I got there late. It is called Little Ricky's and it is really nicely done and is expected to open with a full Bar this Month of October. The owner seems to be a really nice guy and while it is great to have him put his business here on 12th Street, it further shows how Racist and Prejudiced the Protest was against the Cafe.

Just Saying and maybe I will one day live long enough to not be faced with Racism like you.

Rob Ramson

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:

That was uncalled for Rob. Be decent in your comments and play nicely or I have to cut you back some and not allow you the leeway you have been privileged to have. Some of your statements appear to be a little abusive on the abusive side. As a community leader, we expect you to lead by example in the way you to talk to people and bring them along to your point of view.

She did have a point as do you. Perhaps the purpose of the event needs to be clearly stated or maybe there needs to two events. I'm not involved in this event. I'm just moderating the discussion to help maintain the peace on the listserv.

The day you open your brain and realize that what you said

KPW

Moderator

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
To: ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>; Ward 5 Google Groups <wardfive@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 11:15 am
Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Good Morning Allison,

1. The day you open your brain and realize that what you said was very attacking to Hazel and to the Farmers Market, then you will have the right to mention being "attacked" here again. We were only responding in kind to you as a the initiator.

2. I understand that you may have your own reason for this location not being a "safe place", but please find me some evidence that it has a history of being "not safe".

3. Please allow those people who feel it is not a "safe place" to voice that and show the same history of it being "unsafe".

4. This conversation is not about "BCafe" or a Liquor License so please get that. It is about the process in how Racism is affecting this community and the Oppressive behavior and tolerance of some Whites by other Whites -- all with the hope of having the end result of having a better community.

5. This would be a great place to start so that folks like you could see the so called "unsafe" place that has been the perfect storm to fully expose folks like the Padous and all the comments that have fallen out of the Tree regarding Racism. Any White Person who attends this meeting with an open mind will leave with a much better understanding and appreciation of how Blacks feel about the things that are said and done. Above all, you will be look at as wanting to be part of a solution even if you have been part of the Problem.

6. We can have this meeting in your living room and folks like Tiffany Mouzan who is new to this community and Commissioner Ransom would say the same thing that they said - of course without response. I wonder if you all even know if Tiffany Mouzan is White or Black?? Can you tell by her name?? Hmmmm!!

I know that I may seem like an easy target to attack because I am not "African American" - However, it wasn't until yesterday that God and/or my Mother-in-law opened my brain and made me realize how African American (not just Black) I really am. As you see, I have put lots of thought into being who I am and that's only about 20% of what I have brought to the table thus far.  Because of my experiences, God has trained me to have transcended Race and have been gifted to talk and walk the talk into a life that none of you can SUBDIVIDE me from the so many arms that are locked and clinched around me.

Willie Lynch Technology has no operation system that can even begin to interface in my domain. Trust and believe that when this meeting is over,  Whites don't own the corner on communication. Understand that I didn't call this meeting but you, your trumped up fears or those of anyone else will not be the determining factor of where it is hosted. So you know, I could care less - but it would be good to have some input from some of the "non-involved" customers to be able to get a "NEUTRAL" FEEL!!

Rob Ramson

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Allison Stewart <allisonstewart@gmail.com> wrote:

At the risk of being attacked here (again), and regardless of my or your position on the BCafe, there are many people who might not see that as a 'safe space'. For maximum attendance, I suggest you find a neutral location like a school or community space.

Allison

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[WardFive] Re: File - When we are escorting someone to the exit

DEAR PREJUDICED BROOKLAND@YAHOO LIST SERV MODERATORS,

It is amazing that you can "remove from the listserv" because my posts violates your Terms of Agreement. For almost a year now, I have not been able to post any emails to OUR COMMUNITY"S listserv -- get it, I am on a READ-Only Privilege!!! It looks like you have OUT-FOXED yourself.

At some point, maybe you can stop showing your trickery and prejudice and you know I want to say Racist as I don't know of you allowing anyone Black to be a Moderator - I could be wrong. Furthermore, I have not sent out any "ADVERTISING" via the Brookland@Yahoo listserv as you have attempted to make claim to as "wishing me well with my business endevours" -- so YOU ARE IN A CLEAR VIOLATION of YOUR OWN RULES -- Your Prejudice has been Exposed to our entire community how you truly feel.

Correct me if I am wrong -- pilates and yoga can be sent out whenever but you won't allow someone who cannot posts emails to be part of the listserv even when they are not "posting" business advertising. Interesting. Hilarious but still interesting. Crazy thing is that six or more of you are actually trying to figure out how to put me off the Brookland Listserv legally and this is the Crap you come up with. Guy -- that's why they cut down the trees without telling you anything and I am getting ready to cut some more because I am one of the developers that they sold the back piece of the Monastery to.

As of today, I am still live here in Brookland where some of the other "members" probably don't. I wonder what Yahoo will have to say about this.

Feeling very "violated"

Rob Ramson

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Brookland Moderator <Brookland-owner@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

We, the moderators, are doing our best, as volunteers, to keep our neighborhood listserv free of unnecessary advertising bombardment. We do wish you well in your business endeavors. However, we're removing you from the list because your posts violate our Terms of Agreement.

Best of luck to you,

The Brookland Listserv Moderators.

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R. Ramson
3744 12th Street, N.E.,
Washington D.C., 20017
202-438-5988

"We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
(Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)

[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Good Morning Allison,

1. The day you open your brain and realize that what you said was very attacking to Hazel and to the Farmers Market, then you will have the right to mention being "attacked" here again. We were only responding in kind to you as a the initiator.

2. I understand that you may have your own reason for this location not being a "safe place", but please find me some evidence that it has a history of being "not safe".

3. Please allow those people who feel it is not a "safe place" to voice that and show the same history of it being "unsafe".

4. This conversation is not about "BCafe" or a Liquor License so please get that. It is about the process in how Racism is affecting this community and the Oppressive behavior and tolerance of some Whites by other Whites -- all with the hope of having the end result of having a better community.

5. This would be a great place to start so that folks like you could see the so called "unsafe" place that has been the perfect storm to fully expose folks like the Padous and all the comments that have fallen out of the Tree regarding Racism. Any White Person who attends this meeting with an open mind will leave with a much better understanding and appreciation of how Blacks feel about the things that are said and done. Above all, you will be look at as wanting to be part of a solution even if you have been part of the Problem.

6. We can have this meeting in your living room and folks like Tiffany Mouzan who is new to this community and Commissioner Ransom would say the same thing that they said - of course without response. I wonder if you all even know if Tiffany Mouzan is White or Black?? Can you tell by her name?? Hmmmm!!

I know that I may seem like an easy target to attack because I am not "African American" - However, it wasn't until yesterday that God and/or my Mother-in-law opened my brain and made me realize how African American (not just Black) I really am. As you see, I have put lots of thought into being who I am and that's only about 20% of what I have brought to the table thus far. Because of my experiences, God has trained me to have transcended Race and have been gifted to talk and walk the talk into a life that none of you can SUBDIVIDE me from the so many arms that are locked and clinched around me.

Willie Lynch Technology has no operation system that can even begin to interface in my domain. Trust and believe that when this meeting is over, Whites don't own the corner on communication. Understand that I didn't call this meeting but you, your trumped up fears or those of anyone else will not be the determining factor of where it is hosted. So you know, I could care less - but it would be good to have some input from some of the "non-involved" customers to be able to get a "NEUTRAL" FEEL!!

Rob Ramson

On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Allison Stewart <allisonstewart@gmail.com> wrote:

At the risk of being attacked here (again), and regardless of my or your position on the BCafe, there are many people who might not see that as a 'safe space'. For maximum attendance, I suggest you find a neutral location like a school or community space.

Allison

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Monday, 1 October 2012

Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Neighbors ... as I said before, this only works if we ALL feel that we are in a safe place, so let's set some ground rules. If there are more than two or three we will have to have a mechanism to assure everyone gets heard. (a moderator) not me and not Rob ... I think we'll need to take notes as we don't want wholesale interruptions ... let's work on this over the next week.

Jerry

----- Original message -----

From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>

To: ward5@yahoogroups.com, Ward 5 Google Groups <wardfive@googlegroups.com>

Subject: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 18:00:50 -0400

Hello everyone,

I just spoke with Mr. Peloquin and we are thinking about Monday around 6. Hope that is convenient for everyone interested. If this conflicts with anything major, we can change it.

Rob

On Oct 1, 2012 5:27 PM, <tmouzon@alum.emory.edu> wrote:

What time was confirmed for the meeting?

--- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, jeromepeloquin@... wrote:
>
> I would like to make a small proposal to all who would like to see a
> coming together of our friends and neighbors (black, white, and those
> in the middle) here in this Ward. We can sit here in the relative
> comfort of our homes and snipe away at each other, or we can be
> courageous and pro active and move to resolve some of the festering
> issues and resentments that hobble us socially, politically, and
> economically here in Ward 5 NE.
>
> Is anyone interested in trying a casual meeting just to talk and
> develop some ground rules of engagement?
>
> Jerry In Support
>

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[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: A Constructive Proposal

Hello everyone,

I just spoke with Mr. Peloquin and we are thinking about Monday around 6. Hope that is convenient for everyone interested. If this conflicts with anything major, we can change it.

Rob

On Oct 1, 2012 5:27 PM, <tmouzon@alum.emory.edu> wrote:

What time was confirmed for the meeting?

--- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, jeromepeloquin@... wrote:
>
> I would like to make a small proposal to all who would like to see a
> coming together of our friends and neighbors (black, white, and those
> in the middle) here in this Ward. We can sit here in the relative
> comfort of our homes and snipe away at each other, or we can be
> courageous and pro active and move to resolve some of the festering
> issues and resentments that hobble us socially, politically, and
> economically here in Ward 5 NE.
>
> Is anyone interested in trying a casual meeting just to talk and
> develop some ground rules of engagement?
>
> Jerry In Support
>

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