Monday, 11 August 2014

Re: [WardFive] Jonetta Rose Barras: The return of 'separate but equal'?

People often work towards something they can see. It is truly discouraging when options are limited and becoming more limited. And depending on circumstances, it is really tough to seemingly "spin ones wheels"! I think that providing a better environment coupled with mandatory education/job training/drug testing/rehab (attendance required) and job placement, folks have a chance. We almost have to hold the hands to guide them out.

I have never seen a rescue team only put 1/3 of a ladder into a 10ft well and expect the person to jump the rest of the way. Hell, even with a full length ladder, we still seem to give the person a hand when they get to the top. This is the same approach that needs to be taken with our folks who are not as prepared to do it without easily being distracted. 

So your "anesthetizing" comment sounds like some mid-level of elitism to me. It doesn't hurt for Mrs. Barras to advocate for better conditions for our under achieved/performing community if the Developer is receiving City funds and/or getting bond money, etc.. Why is there negativity if she is trying to bring light to a situation in order to make it better/more humanely equal?

Rob Ramson.



On Aug 11, 2014 7:00 PM, "'RobbyCU' via WardFive" <wardfive@googlegroups.com> wrote:

No one has ever liked being poor. That's 1 big reason people work to get out of poverty. Our goal should not be to anesthetize the poor.

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Subject: Re: [WardFive] Jonetta Rose Barras: The return of 'separate but equal'?
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In addition to the separate entrances, why does the city need to put up $2 million to keep the place part "affordable".  What is the profit margin of the developer at completion and what is the long term return.  If the city is putting up $2 million, then the City should be getting a Return On Investment over the long run. As a matter of proper usage of funds, the city should be getting that $2 Million back and then the long term return for their part of investment should go to the residents who utilize the "affordable" aspect of the building so that they would eventually be on their own and others can utilize the "affordable" aspect.

This is not an attack on CM Bowser.  This is a responsibility of all the CM's.  There is no reason to fund any of these developers when they are going to develop in DC anyways.  We should be passing legislation to come up with regulations of how to structure the funding so as the City becomes a REAL partner in the Public/Private partnership.  These developers should have to produce the projected financials and the City should have a right to share in those proceeds; with the ability to get part of the surplus that is not part of the projection. 

But, thinking through and properly addressing issues are not the top priority. Most legislation passed and most of the funding they do have loopholes big enough to sink a ship.  Look at the Living Social benefit package -- and with all the testimonial warnings that was received. That's why we still have no legislation to make our City Council positions FULL TIME so they could stop PIMPING the system. That is the first bit of legislation that needs to be put into place.  At some point, we need to really be serious about a realistic approach to who really needs assistance.

As to Robby's thinking -- that says a lot.  Easier said than done " takes effort and drive to climb our of poverty".  There was a movie made about that called trading places.  It is easy to sit in a "Robby's" position and say those things.  The reality is no one likes being poor and with some guidance and help, it is much easier to muster up the Effort and Drive to climb out of poverty.

It is sad that in today's world, we still condone this "front and rear" door entrance. Actually, it is worse when our own justifies it.

Rob Ramson 








On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM, 'Pierpont Mobley' via WardFive <wardfive@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Great article, so what are we going to do a


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Pierpont

On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:32 AM, "'RobbyCU' via WardFive" <wardfive@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I don't understand her logic? Cheaper apartments are usually not in better parts of a building. Just like cheaper cruise ship rooms are not in the best part of the ship. There is opportunity for folks to move up and better living conditions is one of the goals. The housing debate here seems not sustainable. Development is a balance of often thin margins. Yesterday we went to Columbia Hgts and 11th street nearby. The changes there are amazing and were much needed. The quality of life there improved for all there. We should support raising the quality of life for DC residents, and stop our politics on class and race divisions. Ultimately, affordable housing is what one can afford. The issue isn't the developers, it's that the neighborhoods of those the middle class was happy to leave behind are coming online again, and those that live there can't afford it. There's only one real long term solution - they find a place they can afford. It's what people have done since the dawn of time. You didn't have a right to live in the castle. You lived where you could. You did the best you could, and hoped your children would strive beyond you.

There really isn't a natural right to housing. There just isn't.

In the end people make choices, and if children are impacted by their patent's choices. It's really all that's been constant. Those that are poor right now and have poor conditions. That is, well, what beong poor is. Yet poverty can be overcome. Our nation is full of those stories. Save for lottery winners, it takes effort and drive to climb our of poverty.

Instead of supporting policies that support poverty, let's support polices of opportunity and growth. Most of it, like libraries, universities, hospitals are products of the wealthy and not government. The steps Rocky climbed weren't a product of government, but the private sector.

Robby AKA Uncle T.

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