Enough!!!
Please stop Straddling the fence. The answer is that any plans for Development (not just McMillian) should be halted until an attempt to solve this problem is fixed. Watch how quick the Developers get some of their experts in to help the City figure out this problem. When this flooding occurred, I wrote that there is no other area large enough to dump the drainage until the rains have subsided.
Kenyan - What is this double talk!!
D.C. Council member Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who has both been intimately
involved in the McMillan planning and has been crusading for storm-ravaged
residents, said it`s ``a little too early to get residents` hopes up`` about
McMillan. But he said his first priority would be using the site for flood
relief: ``Given the devastation that the residents have experienced, the costs
and the toll that been taken, then all options should be on the table.``
But McDuffie said he hasn`t given up on development, either. ``The question I will
have is, can we do both?`` he said. ``I haven`t heard that the two are mutually
exclusive at this point.``
involved in the McMillan planning and has been crusading for storm-ravaged
residents, said it`s ``a little too early to get residents` hopes up`` about
McMillan. But he said his first priority would be using the site for flood
relief: ``Given the devastation that the residents have experienced, the costs
and the toll that been taken, then all options should be on the table.``
But McDuffie said he hasn`t given up on development, either. ``The question I will
have is, can we do both?`` he said. ``I haven`t heard that the two are mutually
exclusive at this point.``
I told you that you are a good dude and you should act like you have a backbone and stand straight. Stop all the BS/Politics and sucking up -- it is embarrassing!! You did the same with that soft COREY CRAFTED "letter to the Mayor" on the Spingarm Car Barn. Don't be like a seemingly innocent child (Damien) in the "Omen" --- Don't you see who has been positioned around you to guide you!!
ANC5B's Chair/Commissioner Jackie spoke to the failure of all the departments to follow procedure with the neighborhoods involved but you wrote that sappy letter to the Mayor anyways. Earn the position that you slipped into!! I told you that you have the wrong people around you who has their own agenda in place.
Spingarm and Bloomingdale deserves more than you are giving. Let me show you how to "roll" your sleeves up. That 1/4 of a BILLION Dollars could have been better Spent than that Stupid Trolley Car and could have been more Beneficial elsewhere.
WHERE ARE THE JOBS/Apprentice "Job Training" IN THE EXISTING METRO BUS BARNS??? Why Wait to implement after Barn is built. Don't be part of the problem that already exists down at the Wilson Building - 2014 is only 1.5 years. Be the leader that you have the ability to be!!!
Before you get all salty and personal - understand the saying "you will thank me later".
Tired!!!
Rob Ramson
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Date: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Subject: [ward5] WaPo: "Can McMillan site help solve Bloomingdale flooding>"
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This idea was briefly mentioned at yesterday`s CM Cheh hearing on Bloomingdale flooding.
Can the McMillan site help solve flooding in Bloomingdale?
By Mike DeBonis
Posted at 03:15 PM ET, 09/26/2012
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/post/can-the-mcmillan-site-help-solve-flooding-in-bloomingdale/2012/09/26/2c7f63c2-080b-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html]
Could McMillan`s subterranean filtration cells again hold water? (Claire Bedat - ASLA)
Residents of the Bloomingdale and LeDroit Park neighborhoods took their
complaints about frequent flooding to the D.C. Council on Tuesday. Denizens of
those low-lying neighborhoods renewed their pleas for relief more effective
than backflow preventers and rain barrels but more immediate than the 10- to
15-year project to dig a massive underground storage tunnel.
But there was a novel medium-term solution discussed that could help alleviate
drainage issues that led to three major flooding incidents over 10 days in July.
D.C. Water General Manager George S. Hawkins said his agency is exploring whether
the historic McMillan Sand Filtration Site north of Bloomingdale could be used
as a place to store storm runoff during major storms, easing the aging and
overloaded sewers downhill.
Storing water at McMillan, which hasn`t filtered water since 1985, would be unlikely to
prevent all flooding, Hawkins said. But in combination with other efforts, such
as installing a ``relief sewer`` or transferring some flow to other ``trunk``
sewers, he said, ``we`ll be able to get a dent.``
D.C. Water spokesman Alan Heymann said Wednesday that engineers are exploring
whether the subterranean sand filtration facility is structurally sound enough
for the job and whether it could hold the millions of gallons of storm runoff
necessary to provide meaningful relief to the downhill neighborhoods.
The concept is that, during major storms, storm sewers upstream from Bloomingdale
would dump runoff into McMillan`s filtration cells, where it would stay until
the weather passes. Once downstream sewers were less taxed, the runoff would
then be pumped though to be processed at Blue Plains.
Without endorsing the McMillan idea specifically, City Administrator Allen Y. Lew said
Tuesday he would work up a medium-term relief plan within 30 days, with an eye
toward implementing it in about a year. Hawkins indicated money shouldn`t be a
problem: ``I am confident that the financing element will not be as much a
challenge as some of the other elements will be,`` he said.
The McMillan-as-stormwater-impound idea has won fans among some area residents.
Russell Kinner, who testified at the hearing, suggested that it would be using
the site for ``its original industrial purpose.`` That is: ``Keep it more or
less the way it is, and store water there during storms.``
But keeping it more or less the way it is could mean tossing aside, or at least
modifying or delaying, grand redevelopment plans for the site.
If D.C. Water and city officials decide they need to use McMillan`s underground
filtration cells until the planned storage tunnel is complete in 2025, that
stands to affect how redevelopment will proceed — perhaps it could be done in
phases, or perhaps it would have to wait until the tunnel is fully in service.
Jose Sousa, a spokesman for the city economic development office, said only
that there have been ``conversations`` about using the McMillan site for
stormwater impoundment.
D.C. Council member Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who has both been intimately
involved in the McMillan planning and has been crusading for storm-ravaged
residents, said it`s ``a little too early to get residents` hopes up`` about
McMillan. But he said his first priority would be using the site for flood
relief: ``Given the devastation that the residents have experienced, the costs
and the toll that been taken, then all options should be on the table.``
But McDuffie said he hasn`t given up on development, either. ``The question I will
have is, can we do both?`` he said. ``I haven`t heard that the two are mutually
exclusive at this point.``
By Mike DeBonis | 03:15 PM ET, 09/26/2012
Can the McMillan site help solve flooding in Bloomingdale?
By Mike DeBonis
Posted at 03:15 PM ET, 09/26/2012
[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/mike-debonis/post/can-the-mcmillan-site-help-solve-flooding-in-bloomingdale/2012/09/26/2c7f63c2-080b-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html]
Could McMillan`s subterranean filtration cells again hold water? (Claire Bedat - ASLA)
Residents of the Bloomingdale and LeDroit Park neighborhoods took their
complaints about frequent flooding to the D.C. Council on Tuesday. Denizens of
those low-lying neighborhoods renewed their pleas for relief more effective
than backflow preventers and rain barrels but more immediate than the 10- to
15-year project to dig a massive underground storage tunnel.
But there was a novel medium-term solution discussed that could help alleviate
drainage issues that led to three major flooding incidents over 10 days in July.
D.C. Water General Manager George S. Hawkins said his agency is exploring whether
the historic McMillan Sand Filtration Site north of Bloomingdale could be used
as a place to store storm runoff during major storms, easing the aging and
overloaded sewers downhill.
Storing water at McMillan, which hasn`t filtered water since 1985, would be unlikely to
prevent all flooding, Hawkins said. But in combination with other efforts, such
as installing a ``relief sewer`` or transferring some flow to other ``trunk``
sewers, he said, ``we`ll be able to get a dent.``
D.C. Water spokesman Alan Heymann said Wednesday that engineers are exploring
whether the subterranean sand filtration facility is structurally sound enough
for the job and whether it could hold the millions of gallons of storm runoff
necessary to provide meaningful relief to the downhill neighborhoods.
The concept is that, during major storms, storm sewers upstream from Bloomingdale
would dump runoff into McMillan`s filtration cells, where it would stay until
the weather passes. Once downstream sewers were less taxed, the runoff would
then be pumped though to be processed at Blue Plains.
Without endorsing the McMillan idea specifically, City Administrator Allen Y. Lew said
Tuesday he would work up a medium-term relief plan within 30 days, with an eye
toward implementing it in about a year. Hawkins indicated money shouldn`t be a
problem: ``I am confident that the financing element will not be as much a
challenge as some of the other elements will be,`` he said.
The McMillan-as-stormwater-impound idea has won fans among some area residents.
Russell Kinner, who testified at the hearing, suggested that it would be using
the site for ``its original industrial purpose.`` That is: ``Keep it more or
less the way it is, and store water there during storms.``
But keeping it more or less the way it is could mean tossing aside, or at least
modifying or delaying, grand redevelopment plans for the site.
If D.C. Water and city officials decide they need to use McMillan`s underground
filtration cells until the planned storage tunnel is complete in 2025, that
stands to affect how redevelopment will proceed — perhaps it could be done in
phases, or perhaps it would have to wait until the tunnel is fully in service.
Jose Sousa, a spokesman for the city economic development office, said only
that there have been ``conversations`` about using the McMillan site for
stormwater impoundment.
D.C. Council member Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who has both been intimately
involved in the McMillan planning and has been crusading for storm-ravaged
residents, said it`s ``a little too early to get residents` hopes up`` about
McMillan. But he said his first priority would be using the site for flood
relief: ``Given the devastation that the residents have experienced, the costs
and the toll that been taken, then all options should be on the table.``
But McDuffie said he hasn`t given up on development, either. ``The question I will
have is, can we do both?`` he said. ``I haven`t heard that the two are mutually
exclusive at this point.``
By Mike DeBonis | 03:15 PM ET, 09/26/2012
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