You are missing my point. This is not about folks not caring about that community. Some in that community actually do think it is a good idea. Much like the development at Colonel Brooks, some think it is a good idea and some don't. These issues are not as cut and dry so for the Councilman to come down hard in one direction is actually doing a disservice to some who he represents. On the other hand there is no one who thinks flooding is a good idea or something not to be concerned with. That is why it is looked at differently than the car barn issue.
Eric J. Jones, MSF
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Subject: Re: [ward5] McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times Monday, September 3, 2012
Anything that impacts schools is the greater good! There are plenty of issues that don't affect all areas or not supported by some that get attention and respect.
It's about clout. I understand that a freeway back in the day was supposed to come through upper Northeast and those folks had the power to stop it. You don't have that at Spingarn.
Some people don't care about Spingarn because they don't feel it impacts them or that it is minor to them. Some people didn't care about crime or crack because it was happening in other areas. Surprise, surprise when it hit their area. Some of us that have been given much see the need to look out for other communities and to support the educational facilities that produce our leaders of tomorrow. Some of us see good schools as a way to improve property values or as a deterrent to crime.
There are multiple issues that need to be addressed with zeal and understanding. When the flooding issue/sewer problem in Ivy City occurred in the 80s, the new townhouses had to be torn down. It was said that there was a problem with the sewers. We as a community have to care about our fellow man if we expect our society to grow in piece.
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From: Eric J. Jones, MSF <ejjones.threed@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [ward5] McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times Monday, September 3, 2012
You have to realize that the car barn issue isn't as cut and dry as this. There are actually a fair amount of residents in the Ward who don't have an issue with the car barn. On the other hand no one can see a positive from the constant floods in this area.
KPW, I don't think it is about votes at all. It is about what is considered the greater good. Everyone can agree that looking into this issue is in the greater good of everyone. The same cannot be said about the car barn as you will find supporters of it who feel that it is in the greater good much like you will find folks who are against it who feel that it is not in the greater good.
Eric J. Jones, MSF
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Subject: Re: [ward5] McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times Monday, September 3, 2012
fewer voters, less clout in spingarn area
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Subject: RE: [ward5] McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times Monday, September 3, 2012
What about the carbarn issue. I guess that is not important?
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 10:44:31 -0400
Subject: [ward5] McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods By Tom Howell Jr. - The Washington Times Monday, September 3, 2012
Excerpt from article for those that want to know exactly where Bloomingdale is
Bloomingdale is an increasingly popular neighborhood south of McMillan Reservoir and north of Florida Avenue. It abuts North Capitol Street on its eastern edge and is bisected by Rhode Island Avenue, a main corridor that was plagued by rushing water and stranded vehicles during bouts of rainfall in late July.
McDuffie adamant about emergency funds as Bloomingdale floods
A D.C. lawmaker is calling on the city to establish an emergency relief fund for residents of the Bloomingdale neighborhood reeling from flood damage after fierce rains backed up their outdated sewer once again during the Labor Day weekend.
Council member Kenyan McDuffie, Ward 5 Democrat, said water rushed under doors and stranded motorists on Rhode Island Avenue Northwest while raw sewage bubbled up through toilets and drains in homes, a nightmarish and all-too-frequent occurrence for his constituents this summer.
"No one should have to live like that," he said.
Standing water along Rhode Island Avenue reached the tops of cars' wheels on Sunday evening and Metro had to suspend service on its Green and Yellow lines between Georgia Avenue-Petworth and Mount Vernon Square stations because of flooding near the Shaw-Howard University station. At about 9 p.m., the Metropolitan Police Department assisted with temporary road closures and helped stranded motorists along Rhode Island Avenue and North Capitol Street, spokeswoman Gwendolyn Crump said.
Mr. McDuffie said he is calling on all relevant agencies, particularly the D.C. Water and Sewer Authority and the D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, to bring forward all of their resources and set aside funding for immediate relief to residents in the affected areas. He also said the city should request financial assistance from the federal government, even though it is not a citywide problem.
"You've got residents who have legitimate flood-damage claims," he said. "They don't need [help] next week, next month — they need it now."
Bloomingdale is an increasingly popular neighborhood south of McMillan Reservoir and north of Florida Avenue. It abuts North Capitol Street on its eastern edge and is bisected by Rhode Island Avenue, a main corridor that was plagued by rushing water and stranded vehicles during bouts of rainfall in late July.
Mr. McDuffie called for an "all-hands-on-deck" effort to stem the flooding after the July storms, prompting Mayor Vincent C. Gray to assemble a task force to study the problem and report its findings by Dec. 31.
But now the lawmaker is ramping up his rhetoric.
On Monday he called for a new study by independent engineers to see what the city and residents can do in the short term before they are hit by flooding once more. Some residents spent thousands of dollars to install back-flow preventers in their homes — plumbing devices that keep sewage from backing up during storms — only to experience flooding again Sunday night, he said.
WASA's General Manager George Hawkins said flooding can occur in numerous ways. His own agency is set to release its findings on the neighborhood's engineering challenges in the coming week, although he is fine with an independent review.
He said crews cleaned storm water drains on Friday in anticipation of the remnants from Hurricane Isaac coming over the weekend. But once again, the area was hit by "an enormous amount of rain in a small amount of time."
"This is absolutely a terrible outcome, and we're doing everything we can to try and solve [the problem]," he said.
The sewer system that serves the neighborhood was installed in the late 19th century as a combined sewer, in which wastewater from homes and stormwater flows into the same pipe, according to WASA. Mr. Hawkins said Monday the pipe along Florida Avenue is 9 feet in diameter and "just not big enough to hold this kind of flow."
The system should be remedied as part of the Clean Rivers Project, "a system of tunnels, sewers and other diversion structures to control and capture overflow throughout the city," according to WASA. But the multistage project will not be completed until 2025.
"You've got a legitimate project in the works," Mr. McDuffie said. "But residents can't wait 13 years."
Mr. Gray's spokesman, Pedro Ribeiro, said Monday tha the would have to confer with the mayor, who is in Charlotte, N.C., for the Democratic National Convention, before commenting on a possible relief fund for Bloomingdale residents.
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