Saturday, 1 September 2012

[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Nov. Vote

Rob ... I assume your questions are rhetorical ... of course today's American's will NOT vote for economic or fiscal measures that are not in their "short-term," best interest (forget long term)  ... the real point is that the "people," will never get to vote on these issues.  The lobbyists and the 1% tell our so called representatives how they want them to vote and ... they do their master's bidding.
 
American's want simple answers ... they want clear choices, and they want to believe (even though they know in their hearts that congress is screwing them) that their country, as represented by the gov't has their best interests at heart ... They just won't accept that we have felons up on the hill!   They won't accept that our government has continually lied to us, broken it's own laws, and rewards themselves by making them immune to "insider trading," and other things you and I could go to jail for ... and that (as long as THEY have a job) it's all right with them ... just don't take my job away ... do it to others, take their jobs away!   You are asking the fundamental question...!  
 
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO CIVIC INTEGRITY?   Why Rob, haven't you heard?   They dropped that course along with Art, and Music.
 
I admire your indefatigable effort to teach Civics 101 to the people of Ward 5!  Please continue ... I find their responses "amusing."
 
Jerry
 
----- Original message -----
From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ward5] Nov. Vote
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 23:04:43 -0400
 
 

 

Good Evening,
Understanding that both sides do their skewing of facts and each have their challenges, I wrote the initial email for few reasons.
1. To identify that the majority of us in the Country are faced with items and finanial challenges that a few aren't.
2. To put forth something that we as an entire community can look at objectively to see that often times, many innocent folks are mobilized by those few who have their own agenda - one that is not in the best interest of the overall community and them as an individual.
3. Wanted people to ask -- why would someone vote for a plan even though it is against their own needs.
 
4. And Very IMPORTANT, how do we put forth a message that will get people to separate their emotions from being so involved and to focus on how this truly affects them and their future.
 
Like I said, a large %% of those voting for a Republican leadership will be voting against their best interest!!
 
Rob 
 
 
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Eric J. Jones <ejjones.threed@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Well let me see if I can shed a little more light on the situation.  First off the leadership of the Republican Party isn't the Tea Party, please stop using DNC talking points to make a case.  That sounds no different than the dozen or so emails I get from the party on a daily basis.

 
Now to the parties their selves.  Both parties have decided to go to their respective corners.  The Republicans to the Right and the Democrats to the Left.  Must I remind you that it was our party (the Democratic Party) that just two years ago was sending out stuff saying its time to choke the Blue Dogs and cut off their air.  This was the progressive arm of our party advocating for cutting off a long serving part of our party.  It was our party that tucked and ran on folks (blue dogs) such as Sanford Bishop (D) of Georgia who watched the party pull out of his race and give up on him then try to be friendly to him after he was able to still win.  The fact of the matter is that currently both parties are pandering to voting blocs instead of trying to reach the overwhelming majority of people.  To see this we will look briefly at the advertising and campaign literature we are seeing.
 
On the Republican Side - they are talking about issues such as Medicare reform trying to get folks who are from the smaller government movement engaged.  Additionally they are talking about the welfare to work programs which have been changed and talking taxes which under the current proposal will have a negative impact on many small to medium size family owned businesses because of how they are incorporated.
 
Now to the Democrats - they are not talking about everyone but those voting blocs as well which they feel are important and needed in battle ground states.  They keep on talking about abortion which is now only a women's issue when our own party actually used to talk about it as a family issue just a little more than a decade ago. Likewise they are talking about Medicare and using the same stories of omissions that the republicans are to scare folks while not talking about the fact that neither parties plan will extend the program long enough for me to receive anything from it even though I still have to pay into it out of every pay check.
 
You see our politics have become sad and it is scary in more ways than one.  Both parties are clearly showing folks that they are mainly going after certain bases right now just over two months out and telling others that they know how they are going to vote so they aren't going to address them or deal with their concerns.  
 
You quoted El Haj Malik El Shabazz but I would encourage you to check out his quote which is in my signature.  He encourage folks to look for the lease from government and to build and promote from within as it is the only way to sustain longevity.  Funny enough we have gotten away from this and we see the results. We are sitting and waiting on the government to solve our problems and it isn't delivering results.  They are there to assist no to solve the problems of the day.  
 
Just my two cents,
 
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Eric J. Jones, MSF
ejjones.threed@gmail.com


"I for one believe that if you give people a thorough understanding of what confronts them and the basic causes that produce it, they'll create their own program, and when the people create a program, you get action."

                                                                            El Haj Malik El Shabazz

 

 




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