Nolan,
Jared -- you should press delete on your digest now. It is a cross post that you might not understand.
Nolan - You are right on the passing "smell test" - that is if we are being fair when it comes to SMELLING all the crap that occurs downtown. However, you and others can't/shouldn't nail Michael Brown to the cross for that when you don't make comments on the others. And there has been many chances!!
So, you know - for a person who has been very "transparent" - so while you do much better than most Whites, the opaqueness comes in form of TONS of silence. So while it is nice and appreciated that you and your lovely wife take the time to enjoy the Cafe at times, it is tough piece of rubber to tastefully chew on when you say "I try my best to be transparent about what I do and why I do it" You see, "transparency" can also be inversely recognized!!!! That dog-gone geometry law is awesome -seeing you stand by QUIETLY and WATCH the identified racist/egotistical position/reasoning by some Whites against Blacks when it came to the Cafe/Manomale issue without saying anything says alot. Remember - "silence when one should protest makes cowards of men" Abe Lincoln.
So you get it - That's like walking down the street with some White friends and stand quietly by while they say and do racist things against a Black man (especially one you know) across the street. So, later that day when you contact that Black associate to "compassionately" see how he is doing - (in the Cafe case - visit it but say nothing on the issue) the most memorable of it all is not what your friends (the assailants) did earlier but knowing that you stood by and said nothing. The phone call after the fact is like visiting the Cafe - for your own self image. Regardless if you enjoyed the food or the service, you could have defended it's environment, it's charm, the flowers, the calmness, and identified the OBVIOUS difference in the way it was treated vs. Manomale - but you didn't. !
Furthermore - By you highlighting Michael Brown's iGaming issue without identifying with Aaron that Grosso has never really done anything in this community (that we are aware of) shows further transparency of support for a White Candidate. Why not ask about that and what Grosso has done. Maybe he has - we just don't know about it. We didn't see you respond on that either - I think Aaron asked it.
That's all I was saying on that!!
As for Kenyan - I am not going to attack him heavily as I would like for him to have a chance at "settling" in. The reality of what attracted you to Kenyan was more so that Stephanie was there and this was a chance to get some "White" agendas pushed. December 2010 - Stephanie and Corey were nowhere in Kenyan's sights as Legislative and COF Staff members - not that I have an issue with either of them. Don't forget that Hubbard (best resume on deck) and a few others were available and your first pick was John Salatti.
So you know- Rhode Island Ave is more about the instant needs of our Newcomers - that fix is so far away while we will loose so many of our kids and young adults if we don't understand the bigger picture. Rhode Island Ave being fixed is a long term plan that some are pushing as a priority. And since you are talking "sitting at the table" -- Lets look at the office under Kenyan - you might think we are all sitting at that table but we are not. So you know -- this is not about everyone having a "seat" at the table -- this is about what is OWED FIRST to the EXISTING folks of WARD 5 and the struggling residents of our CITY - especially our kids.
There are Priority things that are much more important than the focus of FORIA (which could be seen as Friends Of "Rich" In Area) or coming to the area - like making up for all that has failed our youth and young adults. As much as I like all of you, - not once have I heard you and some of the others talk about the future of our kids or do anything in that regard. Our kids sure don't need a Trolley Car or a place to eat on RIA as much as they need a Librarian. SILENCE is all I hear when it comes to our Kids and of course most of you "Progressive" newcomers seem to know what's best for Us and our Kids. Of course - by the time all the money is spent on Trolley Cars, most of our current young adults and youth still in school will be in Jail or well on their way!! So they won't be part of the Privilege riders of our "much needed" Trolleys. Who is this Street Car really for???
You see, people like me are not at that table as we would expose the truth of what actually gets sold downtown. The fact that you support a ________ trolley car over spending the money on schools and other infrastructure says everything - it also says that many of you are disconnected to the majority of Ward 5 and our PRIMARY CONCERNS!! Silence is Golden and our kids needs are issues that many of you are silent about. Strange how folk can come to a community and all of a sudden, their needs supercede the larger majority.
You see, there is lots of ways that many of you "youthful progressives" need to expand your horizons on so you understand that it is not about the "iGaming" "you have cooking" but it is so much about the lack of Compassion and understanding of the needs of our community that you just moved into. Just don't swoop in this "Ghetto" and save us!! Tow the Line - you might graze you nose on the footprint of so many before you who have put their time in and get some perspective of what is truly needed as part of living in this "diverse" neighborhood.
The Tsunami of Development is coming - don't worry they will get to Rhode Island Ave soon enough - the question is how many will still be around to appreciate it?? But then that's the goal - financially press us out like the Padous did the Cafe!! It is no different. The mindset is exactly the same.
By the way, your statement "Hope everyone is having a great weekend!" should have been in your initial email not this one. Now it shows a mind that wanted to say much more but flapped its angelic wings - a technique often used instead of saying what you mean. It's animal Psychology at its most primal stage before anger and dislike comes out - kind of like cats covering their crap to cover/hide its scent - don't try to innocently sh** and cover it. Don't try it with me - I Wasn't born yesterday fella.
I am going to end like Debbie does with me - I still like you -- however we understand your "eye"- Game well (the one you and the rest are focused on) while the majority of the community are focused on more important things. Just a teaching moment - no different than how I deal with some close friends and family!! The minute we start being honest when it comes to being a community and stop looking at changing the "neighborhood" then we will be able to live amongst each other peacefully.
I will close with this - this is looking like it will be South Africa all over again.
Rob Ramson
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Nolan Treadway <nolantreadway@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the reply on iGaming, Debbie. That was pretty helpful, although I think I'm still deciding if his explanation passes 'the smell test.'
As for Rob's response, you covered a lot of ground there! I'm not sure I can really reply to everything, and I'm certainly not going to speak for other people or CM McDuffie or his office. I will say that one of the things that attracted me to Kenyan's campaign is that he is very thoughtful about trying to make sure everyone has a seat at the table and their voice is heard and I think he's carried that into the CM's office.To answer what "iGaming" I have cooking, I don't think I have any that I'm aware of. I try my best to be transparent about what I do and why I do it. If you can give me examples of things I've done (or efforts I've supported) that indicate some kind of conspiracy, I guess I can comment on that.Hope everyone is having a great weekend!--NolanOn Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:50 PM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:
Good point. Why is it that others are not under scrutiny for what many in the public see as questionable activities?
But that pales in comparison to some of the other things occurring downtown and the "VP" positions held, the "consultation" fees being made, the "campaign/constituent service" support being accepted. The irony in all of this is that there should be questions about lots of other things that other CM's do that no one likes to discuss. Until that discussion occurs, Michael Brown should not be under the Microscope on this.
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Hello Nolan,I would assume the Worst on that. There is no explanation on that - not even the one Debbie Gave as he stood to profit from this. He was definitely out of Order ---- But that pales in comparison to some of the other things occurring downtown and the "VP" positions held, the "consultation" fees being made, the "campaign/constituent service" support being accepted. The irony in all of this is that there should be questions about lots of other things that other CM's do that no one likes to discuss. Until that discussion occurs, Michael Brown should not be under the Microscope on this. Let's have that discussion about all of the CM's First.Anyways, --- Just as His "iGaming" issue was/is an issue that we have to deal with regarding the entire Council and how it operates. However here is a bigger question to us here in Ward 5 - how do we know what "iGaming" is going on with the Collaberating that Nolan and the rest of the "Progressive" movement and Kenyan have cooking - or is this just a private discussion. You have definitely got his ears - at least you have three people, and a possible 4th in his office pulling on his "leash"!! What's up with the slip-n-slide game here?? We are smelling it - no difference in "politics" here!! Ward 5 is bigger than Rhode Island Ave!!!Maybe someone in your group should have addressed the issue Raised by Stephanie R ----- "Coincidentally, it was in one session of this ULI Leadership Class that a visiting developer announced, "that before they move in to redevelop an urban area, they send in the gays to civilize the area first." Perhaps, this explains why there seems to be a proliferation of disruptive, antagonists moving into our community trying to take over and on local websites causing consternation and civil discord.The first time I heard from Jeff, he sent me an email asking me to send him all of the work PCDC had done on Rhode Island Ave so he could apply for funding.1. Who asked the question??2. When was the question asked - date?You see, Jeff was just doing him (nothing at all wrong with that) when he researched PCDC - the organization mentioned on the listserv. He really didn't find what he deemed as "substanstive" or itemized IR 990 reporting that is often filed. You see, Jeff was just doing his "due diligence" on the Why (that was asked) and reporting Back so he wasn't maligning as he was just saying that it has been and averge type of CDC he experienced over his 30 years as a planner; thus giving Stephanie R a chance to elaborate and clarify a little more about PCDC.Anyways, what was highlighted was a Statement made by a Developer about a tactic that is utilized to "clear the way. Which brings to the forefront something I and others have wondered about Greg Roberts who has moved around so much and participated in so much in so many different states and has "landed"/planted his flag here!! I believe I asked this a long time ago but never got an answer.Trust and Believe that there is a reason that this question filled statement went by untouched. Stephanie R and I definitely are not "bedfellows" but why are those who are so "active" in Ward 5 suddenly silent on this? Now, a statement like this going by untouched lends to its Credibility!! You see, if you answer, your words give you away because the web just gets more intricate, and if you don't answer, the silence defaults to guilt.By the way, as long as Stephanie A and Corey are in Office, it would be a tough set of pills for this community to sell and the other part to swallow if PCDC doesn't get the Controlling Contracts for Rhode Island Ave!! I hope they don't think that having Mrs. Mobley on staff is the neutralizer.All this is like COLUMBUS DISCOVERING THE NEW WORLD ALL OVER; AGAIN!!Rob Ramson
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Nolan Treadway <nolantreadway@gmail.com> wrote:
Since we're talking about CM Brown, I've got a question about his legislative record:
What was the deal with slipping iGaming into the budget at the last minute? I have never gotten a plausible answer as to why that was put in at the last minute, without any public notice, discussion or even any hint it might be coming. I find that episode very troubling. Does anyone have a reasonable explanation? (besides assuming the worst)
Either way, should be a fun race to watch this fall!
--Nolan
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:07 AM, Debbie Smith-Steiner <DLSmith112@msn.com> wrote:
Thanks Aaron; as you know, we will not always agree on political issues. You are right regarding leadership with a "full heart" and that is what CM Brown's current cadre of individuals possess.
I, for one, will not be on the front lines for anyone unless I can see honestly where their intent for the people exist.Remember, my choice in leadership for Ward 5 was John Salatti. When John's team realized that it was an uphill battle for him to win, because of race, we bowed out. And so we wait to see what our newly elected CM of Ward will produce. CM McDuffie has only co sponsors bills; that is not enough from someone who stated that the were prepared to hit the ground running.
Recently I sent out CM Brown's salute honoring the workers, past and present accompanied by a list of his legislative accomplishments. For me, I see in CM Brown the strength of integrity of a young Afro American man who is willing to buck the status quo when it comes to addressing the needs of all citizens of the district, not a few.
I for one, being on the battlefield for truth aligned with justice for all people realize that a leader is only as good as his team.
Dorothy Brizell and her accusations of associating our camp with Mr. Bishop is far fetched unless he was working under someone within the organization but we will see.
Thanks Aaron for the well wishes on getting the Ward to support the strongest most viable At large candidate running. I am looking for you to be next to me on the trail.
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Booker T. WashingtonDebbie,Good day. The Leadership of all the individual who are running for the At-Large seat are having problems with getting their massage out/platform that they are running on. They have not shown any leadership on what they will bring to the council for an more friendly environment for all/"OneCity" theme. Mr. Grosso have no true leadership because it shows with his staffing around him that they are only able to reach out to one group of folks, and that he has been out running for office back in February(No platform)..sad. the other individual have no true sense of direction on leading them to a platform. We all know that our government needs changes. We do not need the candidates to remind us of that.I will say that yes, Mr.Brown has some problems that he needs to address but is having problems doing so in a timely matter. So that show me that one he is not ready to address them or his staffing has not ideal in which to lead him into knowing that the residents of the District of Columbia truly want true leadership from someone with a meaning full heart!? Truly the only CM that has that knowledge is "Mayor for Life" Barry. Will there be someone in the future to be able to do that yes. The question is when. To show you how weak Mr.Gosso is, is that him/his staffing challenged CM Brown's petitions was so weak that it was truly pointless. I am trying to understand the point that they where leading up to.Now Ms.Brizell, as you know will only challenge someone petition if she has a very strong case, but we will see what happens in the weeks to come. I will be truth full that this At-Large race has very weak candidates(all of them). they have never help the community before running so why put someone in office who only thinks he/she is our savior. they need to be engaged in community and not self severing then I may vote for you.Also Debbie good luck and my prayer are with you in helping CM Brown back into office.Aaron McCormicktwitter: @BlackmanhelpingOn Sep 1, 2012 1:10 PM, "Debbie Smith-Steiner" <DLSmith112@msn.com> wrote:I am sadly reporting information on how David Grosso's campaign is trying to do a smear campaign on CM Michael Brown.
Yesterday and this morning I received calls from 3 individuals, who circulated CM Brown's petitions, informing me on how they have received person emails from Mr.Grosso. In the emails, Mr. Grosso indicates how he and Dorothy Brizell are challenging CM Brown's Campaign on signatures that were collected. Further, the email states how there is a hearing on the matter next week.
Now for the real kicker-the email goes further to explain how CM Brown is not being transparent (shady) with not sharing the information on who has donated to his campaign. Moreover, the email begs the question of-is this the type of person that we want to represent us down in city hall?
The individuals who have contacted me want to know first, how did Mr. Grosso get their personal email address? Second, does he think by sending this type of emails will cause people to jump ship from CM Michael Brown's Campaign onto his? Third, does Mr. Grosso really believe that sending out emails with Dorothy Brizille's name bring credence to the subject matter?
This is dirty politics!! First and foremost, trying to find an avenue to go down to eliminate someone from the ballot process is one thing. Trying to use someone's personal financial business against them,[CM Brown] (who has made it very public that he has been separated from his wife for years and is going through a divorce) to portray an individual as incompetent is down right wrong. I guess Mr. Grosso goes to church as well, or is he anti-Christ?
We as a people, need to look beyond the negative fabrications of information of certain people's mindset. Of those who deliberately try to destroy a persons character based on a few facts that get blown up and distorted should not be accepted. We as DC, who live in the Nation's Capital, as community leaders, should demand and expect from our city leadership, to set an example for the world to see. Should we allow creative play on words to destroy a persons character when we know it's not right? We need to stand up against anyone who, again, tries to do am anti Fenty act; this should not be tolerated.
The demographics in DC are changing. This is not the Mitt Romney and Obama fight here in local DC politics. If we allow these type of campaign antics to go unchecked, what's next?
One thing for sure, The City Paper, Loose Lips, is printing the facts.
Did you know that Dorothy Brizell has made it known down at city hall how she despises CM Brown? So, again, what is the motive and the supportive facts?
I am supporting CM Michael Brown. I have accepted responsibility to be his Ward 5 Coordinator (an honor). And I am not getting paid!!!
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