Thursday, 6 September 2012

Re: Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!

You get no argument from me on these points Eric.  Of course, as you well know, politicians, of every stripe, make promises to get elected.  Most of them are sincere.  Like young athletes, they've been told all of their lives how great they are and they start to believe their own press clippings.  When they make campaign promises, more often than not, they believe they can do what they promise.  Then, after election, reality sets in.  I don't fault Clinton, Bush or Obama for over promising.  We just have to hold their feet to the fire and push them to do as much of what they promise and they can do.  

Good discussion.

Bradley A. Thomas      
 
 
On 09/06/12, Eric J. Jones<ejjones.threed@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Bradley,

While I agree, we knew that going in and he shouldn't have made such promises.

Matt, as far as tour statement what folks don't want to discuss is the facts that many of the issues that we faced go beyond just Bush.

For example many of the issues with housing started under Clinton and his his Director who tried to replicate a program from San Antonio where he was from.

Many of the regulations and other problems we face came from the House and Senate not Clinton, Bush or Obama.

Some great examples would be McCain-Feingold, the underfunded S-CHIP program and many of the financial changes. But these honest discussions are being left out much like they are locally.

Just like I said in April/May that council is responsible for legislation while the executive runs the ship it is the same on a National level. Congress (House & Senate) are responsible for legislation and the President runs things. It is shared responsibility.

It wasn't/isn't all Obama's fault good or bad even much like any other President.

Eric J. Jones
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On Sep 6, 2012 9:09 AM, "Bradley A. Thomas" <b-ashton-thomas@verizon.net> wrote:
Excellent response Rob.  And since Robby invoked the name of Clinton ("the Clintonian test"), President Clinton made two profound statements last night.  One was humorous:  "In Tampa, the message was clear, 'we left him a total mess, he didn't clean it up fast enough, so fire him and put us back in.' "  The other statement was more serious:  "No president, not me or any of my predecessors, could have repaired the damage to this economy in just four years, no president!"    

Don't worry about the rhetoric.  When the facts don't stack up, rhetoric is an excellent refuge.  

I'm just sayin'

Bradley A. Thomas  

 
 
On 09/06/12, Rob<indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Good morning Robby,

Awesome question!!  Now where were we exactly "4" years ago? Please don't forget to include getting to unemployment rate of 10% in Oct 2009 - 3 years ago.  So, the question that you and the Republicans should really be asking are "Where was our Country headed 3 years ago and where is it headed now? - in and out of the beltway. 

At 8.3% current unemployment, we are headed in the right direction in less than 3 years.  Last I checked, since the Depression, where the Republicans had us going from 2000 to 2009, was towards that same level. So, saving the auto industry (LOTS OF JOBS) and stabalizing Anti-America issues just by having the right Name!!!, helped to give us the breathing room to turn the economy around.

I am game to continue.  So, Please continue with Rhetoric. By the way, not basking in "glow of DNC Convention" but appreciating the beautiful representation of a cultured/variety of colored filled America vs one that is so not inclusive.  Also, Hope and Faith may be names to you, but your entire "survival now" is here today because your forefathers had those "Names" to hang onto. 

Looking forward to a better response.

Rob Ranson

On Sep 6, 2012 1:19 AM, "RobbyCU" <RobbyCU@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Or you have an example of failure. Hope and Faith are great, if they are the first names of people. But here we have a president that hasn't delivered on the gusto he put forth. I like him, really, but he's failed the Clintonian test. We are not better off than we were four years ago. We simply aren't. So while you may bask in the glow of the DNC convention. In the world outside the beltway people are broke, jobless, and looking for change. And that's not change in the President's future.

 
 
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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
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Subject: [ward5] An Awesome Sight!!!



Good evening,
 
Just a thought - Just looking at the diversity being represented at the Democratic Convention compared to "no diversity" at the Republican Convention, it is almost impossible to not realize which Party is most representative of America - says the diversity of the audience.  While both sides has their faults and plays the game or politics really well, I am just proud that so many have taken the steps towards equality for everyone!!  So, While Change may have been made difficult over the last 4 years, we still survive on FAITH (Belief) AND HOPE (prayer)!!!  
 
A PICTURE, PERFECT!!
 
Rob Ramson     

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