Rob,
Out of respect for the others on this list serve I'm done with you and the other uninformed professor and am going to simply leave it at that. Hopefully you will do the same.
On Dec 6, 2012 1:00 AM, "Rob" <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Eric J,OK Smart one -- you didn't say anything in your response to Mrs. KPW like this -- that more information would be made available.This is what you said -- "KPW dont be so fast to trust that document. I cant speak in a great deal of details at this point but there are flat out lies in this report which will likely lead to legal responses from impacted parties".Which makes one understand the following response by Ms. Ranson --1. Follow this -- Commissioner Ransom stated -- "In my personal opinion, based on clear observations and information shared by DC residents with training or just seeking construction jobs removing debris, this report could be considered true". I think the has that right. Then she went on to describe the underhanded things that Contractors do to circumvent the First Source Law.2. The article stated -- A new report, commissioned by the laborers' union -- may not be the angle you support.So there is nothing wrong with Commissioner Ransom identifying that you get paid to say the opposite and there is nothing wrong with her saying -- "Trying to infuse "FEAR", or "false education appearing as real" doesn't work on those who have their own consciousness. Don't scare easy because they know the truth, not because you say so or those who pay you".ESPECIALLY when you say "I cant speak in a great deal of details at this point but there are flat out lies in this report which will likely lead to legal responses from impacted parties" --- Next time, just don't say anything -- email Mrs. KPW personally since you respect her so much!! The Problem with You is that you want folks to see you as you are in the KNOW -- THAT's why you jumped out there to "Caution" Mrs. KPW publically.What we know is that you are on one side and they are on the other -- and because you flip flop, we don't know what to believe when you open your mouth. As a matter of FACT -- you should never be one to talk about someone's failed logic. Your Crap is so skewed that it is embarassing and the problem is that Whites actually look at you as "representative" of the Educated Young African American Population -- and there are so many out here who are so better positioned/utilize their education more efficiently who would be a much better to be viewed (not saying you are a bad person - but your language and probably because of your profession is not what Whites should use as a barometer of other educated young African Americans.Allow me to give you your most recent example of FLAWED LOGIC:"Never mind the fact that her example of taking cars full of people to job sites is destined to fail because it is common knowledge that on most construction sites in the Mid-Atlantic and North East which would include the place she now serves in Ward 5, her previous SMD in Ward 6 and her original home of New York that most hires aren't done at the job site".WHAT ABOUT THE TIMES THAT THEY ARE?? You see, you DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO need training. Most of the rest of the Crap you wrote is like a LONG WINDED WORD PROBLEM -- WORDS JUST TO THROW THE READER OFF.If you don't get it, that is exactly what she meant when she said --- from another angle -- you think others are so inferior. WE SEE YOU and TRUST ME, someone needs to allign your brain.So you get it, most LEADERS have folks who do research and they follow up after reading and meshing their experience and knowledge of the subject.As to your accomplishments -- Eric, without doubt -- you have done some things in your life. But please go back to the equation that I wrote earlier and understand some of the most dangerous people to the FUTURE of the Black Race right now is the "newly educated" and "the dirt under my toe-nail worth of experience" Black Men like the you's -- A Sheep in Wolf's clothing!MORE young Blacks do much less than they should be doing to honor the work that their predecessors did and the horror and hardship that folks lived through to get us the privileges we so often take for granted. Like I said, infuse some more vertebrae into that backbone of yours -- you might just stand tall enough to "SEE" what I am talking about.So you get it, because I can't teach you in person, thanks very much for reading -- as you leave each time with a few extra pieces of Knowledge that I pass on to you --- I DON'T GET PAID FOR THIS TIME I SPEND WITH YOU and I am not looking for anything in return other than a better place than now for my CHILD and other CHILDREN to grow up in and into. So you get it, My COMMENTS actually costs me MONEY and takes time away from what I could be doing -- But I CHOOSE wisely to spend this time with with online education -- it's the new wave of educating and motivating the Masses.As for the my "RACIAL" attacks -- Here is my answer -- I didn't forget that Stupid "gentrification/gentrifiers" spew you were on a few months ago and not even knowing the definition of the words. And I sure didn't forget the Stupid comments a about "bowtie"/Suit vs. sweatshirt/Hoodie comments. You are rediculously pacifying Whites at times with those DUMB comments -- it is bad propaganda for business and it allows for the Jim "Crow" TURNERS on the listservs to be VALIDATED!!!Now -- you can deflect the conversation with inferring that I am "Racist" but allow me to tell you and whoever else is reading -- I am proud of WHO I AM and the Culture that I was Born/Raised into as well as the One who has embraced ME and I Want Others to Understand that They are not Better, Smarter, More Decent, More "right", more "Privileged", More "Entitled" more anything than I because they are not. Identifying the BS that gets thrown out here on these Listservs is not being RACIST -- I suggest you get that attitude as well.Do you even read what you write at times -- how many times do I and others have to correct you?? Did you even just realize that I saved your neck by only focusing on the last paragraph that Commissioner Ransom wrote. It is that DUMB logic of yours that put your neck on the chopping block.I am sorry -- I comprehend what I read and don't get confuse by the garbage around the variables.Professor RamsonOn Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Eric J. Jones <ejjones.threed@gmail.com> wrote:Rob,You really should' have stayed away from this conversation but that isn't like you. The fact of the matter is that the Commissioner jumped out there and wanted to lodge a full frontal attack on me because I simply warned KPW (someone who I truly respect and consider a friend) that she should be mindful that there were incorrect statements in a report which she spread. I didn't want her to be linked to pushing a faulty report which was produced by a group for personal gain not to actually discuss issues. I then said that I couldn't speak in full detail about it at the time but that more information would be made available.In turn the Commissioner decided to lodge a full personal attack on me which had nothing to do with my statement instead of being an adult and asking a follow up questions. She then dug deeper by typing a bunch of unsubstantiated, uninformed bullshit which she tied to mask with a personal attack. My simple response to her was that she should do her research before speaking on an issue and I left it at that but again she wanted to bring up bad examples of a program in New Jersey which comes from a program which was originally thrown out by the U.S. Supreme Court and then further attack me for not being an uninformed poverty pimp like her. Never mind the fact that her example of taking cars full of people to job sites is destined to fail because it is common knowledge that on most construction sites in the Mid-Atlantic and North East which would include the place she now serves in Ward 5, her previous SMD in Ward 6 and her original home of New York that most hires aren't done at the job site for safety reasons but at off site locations. But then again if she couldn't show her failed logic it wouldn't have helped her to try to make her case for not doing her research.Then of course you jump up to support her uneducated and uniformed statements all the while holding her out as an educated and intelligent role model. Further you try to tie in your constant example of how you try to teach and mentor any young person in this ward who seems to have more information then you by telling them what to do all the while by attempting to use them as a researcher so that you much like the Commissioner don't have to do any actual research. This sir is a poor example of leadership and if this is what you call trying to teach me and the others you have given this same speech to sir, I like the majority of them must respectfully decline.As to your personal attack sir much like Ms. Ransom's it is truly laughable considering that many of the things which I have been able to accomplish you have tried to mirror. Sir it is great to know that you both have to result to childish bully tactics because you can't have a real discussion with someone who you both apparently are smarter than. I will continue to keep that under advisement.Finally as to your continued racial attacks they don't warrant a response.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wardfive+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com----
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