So Tony,
I hope you got the focus of me writing was My Friend (who happens to be a very intelligent White man) immediatetly commented about Black Males and Gay Men having multiple sex partners moreso than heterosexual White males and that's why we have the "baby daddy's" issue.
Directly:
a. So this is what I am getting at - "White boys are not called baby daddy but more often called 'my son/daughter's father'. *shrug*" knowing this is not terms limited to "boys" knowing that you are referring to high school kids - just so that others don't misinterpet.
b. So, this is what I am getting at - Abortions and abortion clinics (contrary to popular beleif) are not frequented, supported, and funded for blacks only".
c. So, yes amongst the many other things that we discussed that day, this was one of the topics -- and what a great conversation to have on the responsibilities of pregnancies for my nephew and niece to be part of and understant the long term effect this could have on one's life.
d. So I see your perspective, however, if your intent is to talk about a loving teenage dad, there is no need to mention
a. Could attract a girlfriend if he wanted to.
b. In that span, Matthews has fathered two children with two women he met at Dunbar, one of whom he still dates.
Point blank, this article could be written without incorporating those comments as well as the pregrenancy/CVS trip. Furthermore, if they just need to fill up space on a page, write some articles about other things that our Black Athletes are doing -- positive as well.
And yes - while the article had to do with him taking on the responsibilities with his children -- WHICH I Addressed, it still propagates that young Black Men are "BABY MAKERS". There are many Black Children who are involved in Sports who are doing other things than making Babies. Those are the stories we want to see more of.
No matter how you want to spin the "perspective", the reality is the same. Most White folks only see the fact that this young Black Male is out there like many Young Black Males -- just making babies. They are not really reading that article. I want to see some articles about White Males Making Babies, and raising them or impregnating girls and having abortions -- because we all know that they are out there having just as much sex as Black and Gay Males.
So you get it -- I asked the question to get White Folks to Think about this issue from a more broad perspective and to address the fact - that exact fact -- Baby Mama's and Baby Daddy's are not sole owned by the Black Race - because it seems like that is like another "neighborhood" vs. "community" differentiation when it relates to race. Also, I don't think that they would have written to this extent about a White Teen Quarterback.
So you know, we did watch the game, talk sports, talk about semester at Bentley and Washington University, Obama Care, Medical practice in 15 years, the election (a republican response to defeat), watched young cousins play chess, etc.
By the way, many young men are involved with their kids - its the older ones that we have a problem with -- at least that's my observation and experience and so is that from a counselor friend of mine.
Rob Ramson
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Tony Humphries <ubalt@hotmail.com> wrote:
Rob,
This was your conversation over Thanksgiving dinner? Really?
Baby daddy is not only for black folks, nor just white folks with black tendencies... its a term that females coined to describe the guy that they get pregnant by, particularly unwedded and often underage. White boys are not called baby daddy but more often called 'my son/daughter's father'. *shrug* Maybe baby daddy or baby momma are used to invoke sympathy in others... who knows.
Abortions and abortion clinics (contrary to popular beleif) are not frequented, supported, and funded for blacks only. Abortion is a PERSONAL choice not a cultural one though.
Maybe yall should become sports fans cause surely the convo should have been more about how good of a game Detroit had or how great it was to kick the Cowgirl's @sses on an exclusive scale on national tv. Or on a cultural basis ask "who made the potato salad"?!!!
Oh to the article... yeah it seems the baby making high school quarterback SHOULD NOT be glorified, but maybe the story was that HE unlike alot of teen fathers IS involved with his kids. I guess its from which perspective you take it.
Tony
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From: indianrob@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:42:58 -0500
Subject: [ward5] Athlete/Baby Daddy's
Good Evening everyone,Last night I was having a conversation with a White friend regarding the article in the Wash. Post on Thursday regarding Dunbar's Quarterback. So, I was conveying to him that after Thanksgiving dinner, my brother-in-law was expressing to me how amazing it is that we have an entire article (Starting on the Front page of the sports page and collectively an entire page) about a really good young Black Quarterback and most of the article was about him having two children and the two women involved, raising the children and its affect on School. Would they have done this with a White Quarterback? Why would a journalist take this approach with this young man?Somehow the conversation between my friend and I evolved and he stated to me that "part of it is that Black Men and Gay Men tend to have more partners. That's why there are so many "baby daddy's"!! I was truly amazed to hear him say this.Anyways, me being me, we had that discussion in which he told me that there are studies that show this.Maybe we can have a conversation about this?Also, can someone give me the white name for "baby daddy"? Is this the name for all cultures?What happens when a Woman gets Pregnant -- Is there a cultural difference in having the baby vs. having an abortion?Rob Ramson
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