Tuesday, 13 November 2012

Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] Michael Brown prepares for possible comeback (D.C. Wire)

Can we stop this G-D insanity. Rob, stop. I voted for DG because I thought he'd do better, I voted for a different person, not saying who, for At large. I'm sorry but a black guy from G-D upper north f-ing west (Chevy Chase) dosn't get my G-d sympathy. He isn't por ray ray on the street his Michael F-ing Brown.  So stop you G-D bull Shine. You are simply making things worse for those of us concerned about the ethnic  composition of the Council.  For example there's no latino, never. We need to make sure all voices are heard. The insanity of White people voting in DG, so what. MB had baggage. And sorry, but if HTJ and KB didn't happen MB may have been okay. Surely if he runs as an At large Democrat he may be fine. 


Let's stop the BS and call a spade a spade. As much as I've been called an Uncle Tom, race hating faggot, you've proven yourself to be caustic. Listen, that white people are  taking over slowly but surely as they do in the rest of the country is both uncomfortable and disconcerting to me, yet I know the way to get things done isn't the tact you taking. Regardless of the bias that may exist, we are all Ward 5. If It mean confronting laten racism I'm all there. But lets not call ever white person a cracker. Because it isn't so. We need to realize that the nation and the world is browning, and I do smile at the prospect, but yes darker skin is dominate and to be square brown will be the color de jouir.  What that means is Blacks, Latinos, Indians, Vietnamese people and other brown people are in the G-D drivers seat. So instead of fighting gentrification, embrace it. Love it for the messagination free fest it is. 

See, it's not the one drop rule, but it is the reality, like you heard first hand brown children, no matter if one parent is white are treated differently. Are talked about differently, and are respected differently that matters. In the next generation it is those brown people who will be in charge. And just as I remember stuff from my childhood sure do they. 


Rob, remember the chickens do always come home to roost. So no need to be so caustic, just lay in the cut. You'll see. You'll see. 



Robby 
 
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From: Eric J. Jones <ejjones.threed@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WardFive] Re: [ward5] Michael Brown prepares for possible comeback (D.C. Wire)

Rob,
Your response further proves my point, thanks.
Maybe one day you will get it. It's funny that you are the smartest person in the ward and city.
Eric J. Jones
- ejjones.threed@gmail.com
On Nov 13, 2012 7:17 PM, "Rob" <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
Eric -  let me start with your Aunt who is an ANC and got Re-elected and she didn't even know WHO Grosso was? Aint that something.  You talk too much without thinking as you are trying to prove something, you expose something worse. PROVES MY POINT Grosso is not even known in the political arena!!
1.  Contrary to what you said, I never Chastised any Black person for who they voted for -- CHECK THOSE RECORDS!!!  I just was realistic with the reporting.
2. The rest you said is Garbage - I don't give a rat's a@@ about your narrative.  Maybe you should report on all else that Grandpa tells you. You make it sound so rosey there.
3.  Where is the minority part of precinct 19.  Tell me that.  Let's focus on those who showed up to vote and the %%/Ratio.
4. So tell me why Grosso only got 2 and 4% else where - those Blacks must not have got the message.
5.  You fall back and laugh about same folks with "complaints". I hear you.  I hear you Bro
Like you said - you have your opinion and I got mine.  I heard scoliosis often go unrecognized for many years. You should get that check out so you dont get stuck in that position when folks see you.
This media and distorted viewpoint /crap is not a laughing matter.
Rob
On Nov 13, 2012 6:13 PM, "Eric J. Jones" <ejjones.threed@gmail.com> wrote:
Rob,
You are full of crap and honestly I'm going to say what many won't. While it is great that you think so highly of your self your, just because its your opinion doesn't make it law and just because you someone disagrees with you doesn't make you smarter than them.
Let's start with low hanging fruit, stop reading quick descriptions of precincts and actually hop in one of your trucks and learn the city. The fact of the matter is that the majority of precinct 19 isn't the southern bloomingdale but actually the Bates/Truxton area where the majority of my neighbors continue to be black. Much like the lines of folks who were at Dunbar the four times I was there on election day.
Likewise the majority of 68 where my family has lived longer than you have been alive. It's funny that you talk about it but my grandfather and their neighbors who live behind the polling place talked about how great it is to watch blacks to go out and vote still.
You see instead of actually visiting polling places as I do every election day and talking to folks in those precincts you come to with your own logic.
Well let me tell you about my aunt in River Terrace who was re-elected as the ANC who asked me who Grosso was because she received mail from him. Or my line brother who ran for ANC in ward 7 who talked about the fact that young folks who have been in the area for three or four years weren't voting as much for Orange and Brown but the likes of Cooper, Browsing and Swain.
Better yet how about the various precincts in ward four which are mainly black in which grosso was able to eat away at votes from Brown.
You see while you and others who didn't leave their precincts because they were running for SMD and spent time sitting at tables reading it in front of schools campaigning. You see I know this from seeing them and talking to voters not just waiting for results.
The fact if the matter is that Brown in years past has won because he has been able to mobilize a strong GOTV effort and have coverage wr precincts. This year he much like AJ Cooper was putting up signs at precincts on election day due to lack of coverage.
The fact that he didn't have the money for a real ground game coupled with the so called scandals with him and previous council members created the perfect storm for him to lose.
It wasn't some grand strategy to just target wards in NW or even a victory by doing so. We have seen time and time again that those types if split votes doesn't win elections city wide just ask Sekou Biddle, Adrian Fenty, Kathy Patterson or A. Scott Bolden.
The fact of the matter is that David was able to win because of the political climate coupled with a wounded candidate.
But of course you and others will continue to chastise any black who didn't vote for Brown or voted for Grosso. Further you all will continue as you so poorly tried to do with your unfounded response which of course lacked basic research.
But hey don't worry, I will fall back into the background like many others who now just monitor this list serve and laugh and the same folks with the same complaints.


Eric J. Jones
- ejjones.threed@gmail.com
On Nov 13, 2012 4:57 PM, "Rob" <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
Eric J,
 
Please tell me the %% that Grosso got in those areas.  Also, don't forget to mention all the other very low %%% he got in other Majority Black Precints.  Then I need you to take a look at the %%% of Whites who live there.  Last I checked, we have a large White population over here in Ward 5. And while you are on you number crunching, let's look at the #'s of who turned out in those areas to get the %%
 
SO let me clear this up -- your WHITE NOSING is going to embarass you.  Let's see
 
Precinct 19 -- Translated -- Bloomingdale -- WHITE -- Grosso got 19%%
Precinct 68 -- Translated -- Brookland -- WHITE -- Grosso got 23%%
 
I bet all the White people showed up to vote for him.  Let's look at Precinct"
 
Precinct 66 -- Translated -- Fort Totten -- Brown got 22% Grosso got 9%
Precinct 67 -- Translated -- North Michigan -- Brown 21% Grosso got 12% 
 
Lots of Whites moving in those areas and Whites show up to vote!!!!
 
Are you ___________ kidding me?? You really need to take your head out of  
 
Also, I am interested in those Blacks who Grosso was able to get his "message" over to that I sure didn't get, hear, get mailers, NADA -- You know the ones like the ones over the Anacostia who were "thoughtful" unlike the rest of us and the ones who showed him all that "warmth" -- I would like to help him put his "fingers" and yours on it.  Let me help you -- BLACKS in politics need to understand how they divide the votes and will end up losing everthing.
 
I see you still riding the fence.  Just to prove my point -- lets have a "do over" for this "thoughtful" position -- I will host a private vote for the position -- lay the seat on the line -- I will invite all the Black Folks over Ward 5 and You invite the Whites -- let's see how this really plays out.  Let's see how confident Grosso feels about his "message" and how many Blacks would be as "thoughtful" as he claims. 
 
Like I said He Won because of other Blacks being selfish.  Say what you want abou Michael, he did have much more a focus on affordable housing -- could have been more but nevertheless, he did.
 
Rob 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Eric J. Jones <ejjones.threed@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Rob,
You should study the numbers before you go on you speak. Check precinct 19 which is in ward 5 and majority black as well as 68 and there are more. The problem is that folks aren't talking facts and are just feeding into the negative press.
Eric J. Jones
- ejjones.threed@gmail.com
On Nov 13, 2012 2:25 PM, "Aaron McCormick" <aaron.mccormick01@gmail.com> wrote:
 
yes that is some crap and Tommy Wells will see it on March..Judge Terrell will have that seat and hold until she is ready to leave.
 
aaron

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Rob <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
 
"Look Everyone -- I wish Grosso the best.  I am really encouraged about the "changes" that he is going to make.
 
However, if you look at the votes in the "Majority Black neighborhoods" (not communities or like right above -- Predominantly White Northwest Washington and Capital Hill), one would see that the votes that Grosso directly reflected the White residents who live there.  Take a look and do the math.  This statement below is some Crap!!
 
"According to unofficial election returns, Grosso smoked Brown in last week's election, racking up an 18,000-vote margin. Grosso not only routed Brown in predominately white Northwest Washington and Capitol Hill, but also ran well in several majority black neighborhoods. Grosso will be sworn in in January".

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:
 


D.C. Wire


Posted at 12:22 PM ET, 11/13/2012
Nov 13, 2012 05:22 PM EST
TheWashingtonPost

Michael Brown prepares for possible comeback


D.C. Council member Michael A. Brown, who lost his bid for reelection last week, said Tuesday that he's seriously considering entering the special election this spring for a seat on the council.

Brown, an independent who holds one of two seats on the council reserved for a non-Democrat, said if he runs he would likely seek the seat as a Democrat.

In an interview on Newstalk with Bruce Depuyt, Brown blamed his loss to Independent David Grosso on unfair media coverage and name confusion on the ballot. Brown said he may have lost thousands of votes because some residents voted for Michael D. Brown, the District's shadow senator also on the ballot last week, thinking it was him.

"We've got thousands of folks calling and e-mailing, saying that Michael D. Brown got (their vote) because he had the D beside his name, that people thought was me," Brown said. "We are pretty proud of what we did, got thousands of votes, even with name confusion."

According to unofficial election returns, Grosso smoked Brown in last week's election, racking up an 18,000-vote margin. Grosso not only routed Brown in predominately white Northwest Washington and Capitol Hill, but also ran well in several majority black neighborhoods. Grosso will be sworn in in January.

Brown's loss followed news reports that he failed to pay his rent, taxes and mortgage on time and that his driver's license had been suspended five times over the past eight years. Brown's campaign was also hobbled this fall after he reported that $113,950 was missing from his campaign. Brown blamed his former treasurer, but no charges have been filed in the case.

During the interview, Brown repeatedly suggested that the media hasn't treated him fairly, particularly as it related to the missing campaign funds.

"I had nothing to do with it, and wish the press had given me a fair shake," Brown said.

Over the weekend, Democratic officials began getting signals that Brown was seriously considering entering the special election for the seat left vacant by Phil Mendelson's (D) election as chairman.

The D.C. Democratic State Committee will select an interim replacement for Mendelson on Dec. 10. The D.C. Board of Election is expected to schedule a citywide special election to permanently fill the seat in early spring.

Brown said he has no plans to seek the interim appointment from the Democratic state committee. But if he runs in the special, Brown said he's confident that voters will once again focus on his legislative record.

"I think my legislative record speaks for itself," said Brown, noting that he's championed more affordable housing, job training and the city law that requires District contractors to hire city residents.

But despite record and strong name recognition, it's far from certain that Brown would enter the special election as a front-runner.

Even as an incumbent, Brown appeared to struggle to raise money after he accounted for the missing campaign funds.

Brown seems to lack a definable political base that could be counted on to turn out in large numbers in a special election, where turnout is historically light. Brown will also have to convince Democrats that they should once again embrace him, even though he abandoned the party four years ago so he could seek his current council seat.

During his most recent campaign, Brown appeared to rely heavily on his council staff as campaign volunteers, suggesting that he does not have broad network of grass-roots supporters.

And despite his efforts to blame the media for unfair coverage, Brown has so far appeared hesitant to give a thorough explanation for how someone could steal so much money from the campaign without him noticing for a year.

Brown could also be entering a crowded field. GOP school board member Patrick Mara, Ward 1 community activist Bryan Weaver, former school board member and council member Sekou Biddle, and D.C. Democratic Committee Chairwoman Anita Bonds have all been mentioned as potential candidates.

A.J. Cooper, an independent who unsuccessfully ran for the council this year, is also expected to compete in the special election.

By Tim Craig | 12:22 PM ET, 11/13/2012



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