Sunday 26 August 2012

[WardFive] Fwd: [ward5] Picture on the original DC trams with underground pickup [1 Attachment]



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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ward5] Picture on the original DC trams with underground pickup [1 Attachment]
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com


Kenyan should present a bill to stop any overhead wires being put along H Street.  Whether he gets support, the fact that if they were going to do this Trolley Car, they should have put the wires underground.  The Fact still remains that DC doesn't need this for economic development like they are selling and this is too much Money just for Show. Electric Buses are much more economic from a short and long term approach. We have lots of other priorities ahead of satisfying our new residents.  Really, they need to stand in line - that the way it is and should be. 
 
Rob

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:10 PM, jeffndc <jeffndc@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
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Note the slot in between the tracks--that is for the underground power pickup. OP and the Mayor and COuncil finally overrode the Historic Preservation and visual objects in late 2010 by passing the  Transportation Infrastructure Amendment Act of 2010 (attached). Note the it is called "temporary"...we all know how those things work!
 
Jeff
From: "jeffndc@yahoo.com" <jeffndc@yahoo.com>
To: Allison <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
 
Short version: long-standing law from the 30s that prohibits overhead wires in the core areas of the district. OP thought they could steam roll it. DCs original trams used a French underground power pickup system which was very elegant. Like the rest of the project, though, the motto has been "ready, fire, aim"!  

Jeff

----- Reply message -----
From: "Rob" <indianrob@gmail.com>
To: <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 3:00 pm


Jeff,

Good to hear from your. Hope all is well.  What was/is the issue about the
Power lines.  I understand that it couldn't be done because of code.  Can
you elaborate.

Rob

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 2:44 PM, jeffndc@yahoo.com <jeffndc@yahoo.com>wrote:

> **
>
>
> Rob is correct. The rfk site should be part of a ling term strategy. The
> other point he makes was what I was referring to with respect to OP's
> ignoring the historic prohibition, for exactly those reasons, of overhead
> power lines.
>
> A botched effort from the beginning.
>
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Rob" <indianrob@gmail.com>
> To: <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
> Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 2:10 pm
>
>
> I believe that there are other long term plans for that site for
> development. The RFK Parking Lot sits right across from where there is a
> big picture of a beautiful development coming along that part of the
> Anacostia. It makes no sense that there would be a beautiful site there and
> nothing across but a bland parking lot across from a Golf Course.  They
> need to stop with this nonsense about doing things in parts and
> haphazzardly.  This plan sucked from the beginning and it continues to do
> so as they try to make it work.
>
> What about the overhead power lines that's needed to power the trains.  Who
> is responsible for that and how much does it cost??  Where is the money
> coming for that?   Has that been worked out and is even within the law to
> put those lines there.  As it stands, H streets looks beautiful coming down
> from the Bridge behind Union Station.  Why are we going to Screw that view
> up with Powerlines.
>
> Also, No ones utilizes a space like that Frontage for something as
> non-community oriented as a TROLLEY BARN!!  If that is ever to be utilized
> for other than Open Green space for our kids and Us, it should be something
> more!!  Maybe we should put it at GRAY's house!!  Or, maybe we can park
> the buses from Union Station there so he can hear the buses coming and
> going all night.
>
> And PLEASE STOP WITH THIS WORK TRAINING/JOBS BS!!  This could happen
> anywhere the _______ barn is put - that is if it will even happen.
> Obviously they will be able to jump on the trolley and go to "the barn" for
> "job training" - where ever it may be put.
>
>
> Rob Ramson.
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:33 PM, KPW <WKPW3@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > **
>
> >
> >
> > Maybe Congresswoman Norton will volunteer to help after reading Internet
> > posts.  Maybe the mayor will see if their are other options to appear
> > concerned and deliberative.
> >
> > ___________________
> > KPW/K. A. P-W.
> >
> >  *The KAPoW Prerogative*
> > *AWTP Communications, Strategies, & Solutions*
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: khenderson029 <khenderson029@aol.com>
> > To: ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 1:20 pm
> > Subject: Re: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
> >
> >
> >   This argument is not compelling. Reps from DDOT stated they did not
> > want to work with Congresswoman Norton to obtain permission to use the
> site
> > for a car barn. Tearing up Spingarn's front lawn because you don't want
> to
> > work with our delegate is ridiculous and irresponsible.
> >
> > Kathy Henderson
> > Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: * "jeffndc@yahoo.com" <jeffndc@yahoo.com>
> > *Sender: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
> > *Date: *Sun, 26 Aug 2012 11:39:28 -0400
> > *To: *Allison<ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> > *ReplyTo: * ward5@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject: *Re: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
>
> >
> >
> > The reason the RFK site is off limits (among others) is that it is
> > controlled by a federal restriction on use.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > ----- Reply message -----
> > From: "KPW" <WKPW3@aol.com>
> > To: <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
> > Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 11:09 am
> >
> >
> >
> > Good piece.  One correction.  Harry Thomas took $300,000 not million.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: henrytimrod <henrytimrod@yahoo.com>
> > To: ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Aug 26, 2012 12:56 am
> > Subject: [ward5] Blogger's Post About Spingarn Car Barn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://davidgaines.com/2012/08/vincent-grays-justification-for-spingarn-car-barn-just-isnt-adding-up/
> >
> >
> > Vincent Gray's Justification For Spingarn Car Barn Just Isn't Adding Up
> >
> >
> > Sometimes I get confused when it comes to politicians. At what point are
> > they expected to make concessions for a few over the benefit of the
> whole?
> > And is there an actual threshold in how expensive a project is when a
> > politician should stop considering other ideas and settle for the lesser
> of
> > two evils?
> >
> >
> > Mayor Vincent Gray apparent

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Washington D.C., 20017
202-438-5988

"We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
(Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)




 


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