Folk --- jumping in at lunch time. Thanks to those that sounded the alarm, etc.
Let's put all of this energy towards moving forward. Like Rob said - let's pretend this is proposed for Sidwell Friends front yard.
I have not followed email to email -- Question: Even if the contract has been approved is it a done deal? Did the city go through proper processes/channels to get ANC approval? According to law, can the city move forward without ANC weighing in? Are there other issues that were not addressed in this process?
A while back, I was involved with trash transfer stations in the city. That was a very ugly, out of control, nasty new industry with City Council support and big money support. During that time I lead the community to organize, raise money and hire an attorney to protect our communities rights. At that time we filed a lawsuit and took our case all the way to the DC Court of Appeals. The Court issued a temporary Stay to stop the operation of the facility. There are way too many more details and history to capture in this email.
Bottom line if the city did not follow or will not follow the correct procedures than there "many ways to skin a cat." That is a phrase my grandmother used to say.
We should first give our CM the opportunity to lead and inform us. I recommend that at tonight's meeting the community consider our options and vote on several the next steps.
Alice
--- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:03:36 -0400
>From: Debbie Smith-Steiner <DLSmith112@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [Ward Five] RE: [ward5] Car Barn Question
>To: "ward5@yahoogroups.com" <ward5@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>
> Regardless of your recents comments and rhetoric
> made in this email, If what you claim is true then
> action should have been taken early on. Since this
> was not the case, we see truly you are not able to
> lead this Ward.
> We currently have a CM who has started a needed
> process regarding this issue and we will work with
> him. And we will keep honest fact to the forefront
> so that we, as citizens will not be bamboozled
> again.
> And if you feel the direct need to have a wordy
> battle with me, do it offline, to be respectful of
> the listserv participants.
> Thanks
> "a man is only as good as his word. For nothing
> else has He that will determine his fate in life's
> living".
> Reverend Dr. James Coleman
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 12:48 PM, khenderson029@aol.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> This is not the time for finger pointing or back
> and forth bickering. I raised this issue months
> ago and took time off the campaign trail to sound
> the alarm regarding a plan that does not support
> the community. The real issue is that DDOT and OP
> continue to move forward with implementing a
> ridiculous plan that tears up the front lawn of
> Spingarn for a car barn. Many have vocally
> denounced the plan yet DDOT et al. continue to
> move forward. In fact, they rushed to implement
> the ridiculous plan before we elected a
> councilmember, which is disrespectful to
> residents.
>
> Finally, the time is now to put aside any
> differences individuals may have with each other
> and move forward. Even if you are just learning of
> this issue your voice should be heard. I encourage
> all to join the fight to stop the destruction of
> Spingarn with an unsightly industrial car barn.
> Our government representatives work for us and
> they should be listening to us. The street car
> plan has taken an odd turn that must be corrected.
> If is not corrected then we should be looking at
> spending our resources on other city priorities.
>
> Kathy Henderson
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my
> BlackBerry®
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Debbie Smith-Steiner <DLSmith112@msn.com>
> Sender: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:42:55 -0400
> To: ward5@yahoogroups.com<ward5@yahoogroups.com>
> ReplyTo: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WardFive] RE: [ward5] Car Barn
> Question
>
>
> We had several people running for Ward 5 Council
> who should have sounded the alarm and been on top
> of the Ward issues. When Robby brought this issue
> to the listserv first months ago, I was under the
> impression that those individuals who were running
> for office would have taken the lead on this issue
> and ran.
> Since the issue surfaced again with KH, CM Barry's
> disapproval resolution and our current CM did not
> acknowledge or respond until several days later on
> this issue, the usual active community residents
> banned together in order to change the direction
> of this albatross.
> We will not be constantly trampled on. The main
> reason to have new leadership on the Ward was to
> have someone on top pf the ossues plaguing the
> Ward. Nonetheless, if the citizen have to protect
> our ward until we can get someone we can trust to
> be on top of things, so be it.
> DDOT should not advertising meetings to the
> general public for us to participate when they are
> trying to plop an intrusive car barn in our Ward.
> They should have met independently with our
> elected officials to see IF it is feasible to have
> what DDOT considered new development in our Ward.
>
> "a man is only as good as his word. For nothing
> else has He that will determine his fate in life's
> living".
> Reverend Dr. James Coleman
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:54 AM, "Matt Ashburn"
> <matt@mattashburn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I think the library location he is suggesting in
> the small kiosk library near Spingarn on Benning
> Rd. If I recall correctly, that is the location
> selected by DDOT as well.
> Speaking of meetings, it is interesting to see
> this level of civic activism, especially after
> the fact. To echo Robby's point made earlier,
> where was everyone back when the city solicited
> input or held town halls to address issues?
> Matt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 10:47, Nolan Treadway
> <nolantreadway@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Someone sent me the slides from the DDOT
> meeting on April 12 of this year where they
> apparently laid out the options and explained
> why Spingarn site was chosen. (warning: the
> link below is to big PDF file, so it is
> probably not phone-friendly)
>
> http://www.dcstreetcar.com/uploads/6/1/6/2/6162393/meeting_report.pdf
> I'm not sure exactly what library site Eric is
> referring to, but it doesn't look like it was
> considered. The report says they need about
> 15,000 square feet to hold the Carbarn and
> Training Center, so maybe it was too small?
> --Nolan
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Debbie
> Smith-Steiner <DLSmith112@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning Rob,
> I was thinking more like " Schools without
> Walls" or the gateway to the Capitol. Now I
> know you will be on your A game tonight!!
> Further, all of KPW's questions need to be
> answered.
>
> "a man is only as good as his word. For
> nothing else has He that will determine his
> fate in life's living".
> Reverend Dr. James Coleman
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:33 AM, "Rob"
> <indianrob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Debbie,
>
> Allow me to answer this for you. We are
> going to pretend that this is Sidwell
> Friends on the Corner of 26th and
> Benning. With that in mind, I am sure
> that they will find another suitable
> option. I think that is what they get
> paid to do!. They should be giving us a
> full report of all the options available,
> the costs, and the analysis and we as a
> community should be able to make that
> decision.
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Eric J.
> Jones, MSF <ejjones.threed@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Debbie,
>
>
>
> Are you saying that you all have no
> alternative and that you all are just
> saying no or that you want them to come
> up with an alternative. Please
> understand that I'm not trying to be
> judgmental it is just that more and more
> I'm trying to live by the philosophy
> of not saying no without an alternative.
>
>
>
> Eric J. Jones, MSF
>
> ejjones.threed@gmail.com
>
> P Please consider the environment
> before printing this email.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:ward5@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Debbie Smith-Steiner
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 8:18 AM
> To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ward5] Car Barn Question
>
>
>
>
>
> We will not be able to answer your
> question until we can meet with the
> decision makers and have an open and
> frank discussion about the CBTC
>
> "a man is only as good as his word. For
> nothing else has He that will determine
> his fate in life's living".
>
> Reverend Dr. James Coleman
>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 6:31 AM, "Eric J.
> Jones, MSF" <ejjones.threed@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Neighbors,
>
>
>
> I won't be able to attend the
> meeting tonight but have been trying
> to follow this discussion for the last
> two weeks and still have one all
> important question. Folks have talked
> about feeling slighted and like they
> were not part of the process yet I
> haven't seen a tangible solution put
> forth. So with that in mind what is
> the proposed alternative to placing
> the car barn at Spingarn to replace
> the dilapidated library building which
> has sat empty for years? I have tried
> to find another logical location in
> that area and wasn't able to do so
> with ease. At the same time I know
> that it may be fully logical that I
> have missed something which is why I
> am asking. At this point we know that
> the street cars are coming and that
> they are coming to H street, so my
> question is what are we going to do
> now. Further if we are stating that
> we don't like what has been proposed
> what alternative(s) are we proposing
> as simply saying no isn't an option.
>
>
>
> Thank you and have a great day,
>
>
>
> Eric J. Jones, MSF
>
> ejjones.threed@gmail.com
>
> P Please consider the environment
> before printing this email.
>
>
>
>
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