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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: D.C. Council Chair Brown Resigns, Faces Bank Fraud, Campaign Finance Charges by Valencia Mohammed Special to the AFRO
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
Good Morning everyone,
I am going to let everyone laugh at the "Oreo" comment but it is clear that even though I know you are capable of reading and comprehending, you had a message you wanted to get across. What you described below is totally different than what Kojo was talking about. And trust me, Kojo being from Guyana is quite clear when it comes to Racism. You should call in to the show and ask Kojo about one of the greatest men that Guyana produced - Walter Rodney - then report back on that conversation about Racism.
So while you say - "we constantly hammer them with the message that they are not responsible for their own failings or achievements?" and "Is it really helpful if we teach kids that they are nothing more than victims?" - I would like you to know that we, like all other cultures in the world, we teach our kids the same thing - that they are responsible for their achievements or failings. However, we teach them that in the White world that they have to prove themselves to get equal recognition, they simply work harder and need to do more than their White peer to be looked at as Equal. But Black People know this - what does this say about you?
So your message that you want to convince people of is that there should be no ownership on the White culture for the plight that many impoverished Blacks are suffering through and that it is a "level playing field" where we have equal opportunity. Well it ain't so! Matter of fact, Greed and sheer "rapish" (i know not a word) mentality of the Slave Masters has transcended and now has imposed it's ugly head on all cultures and it is about the "have and Have nots" - so Whites all over are suffering as well. It is like when you look at Black Youth and see them with their tight and sagging pants listening to the unhealthy aspect of Hip Hop, what you don't realize is that this has now infected a lot of White Youth - who are the largest group of consumers or Hip Hop. This is an epidemic that will be the "Chickens Coming Home to Roost" that Malcolm X referenced. Just look outside of this City and you will see.
And for all you "Diverse" people or those who "love Diversity" and wanted to live here in the City because of its "Diversity" - your kids are going to grow up one day as they get to the Dating Age of 14 in the Blink of an eye. Tell me what you as a White Man think about now when you see a young white Girl/Woman with a Black man - especially a beautiful "blonde" - especially being with a Black Boy/Man with Dreds. That is what living in a Diverse area brings. And trust me, it is difficult even when you are not Racist. Take my Dad, even though he wasn't Racist, he couldn't handle seeing his Daughters with Black Men - even though they are 4 of the most impressive men I have ever met in life - by the way, all of them who influenced my life in many positive ways and have been married into the family for 25 - 40+ years. Did I tell you I am Mr. Progressive and Mr. Diversity for 43 years. Even as my Father knew of their great character as men, it was difficult for him especially facing the Indian Circle of Friends that was half of his friendship circle. Chew on that for a day or so and understand that this is not about you "Oreo/White man Turner and your being a laughable "oreo".
In this City, you will hardly find uneducated Whites and those Whites here should be more concerned about working more closely with their Black Counterparts to help raise the level of Living, Education, Employment Opportunity, etc. for those who are suffering - in DC - it just happens that most of whom are suffering are Black. So while we do have a tremendous amount of both Cultures working on this, we need more of us to be focused on making this "Cause" a reality. That means sacrifice like giving up things like the "Trolley", and focusing most of all infrastructure (primarily dealing with Youth and Employment and Housing) over in Wards 5, 7 and 8.
Quote from the article - that has nothing to do with what you wrote!!!
"What is wrong with this picture is that it seems Blacks are being targeted," said longtime Ward 8 advisory neighborhood commissioner Anthony Muhammad. "Many residents are asking why the focus of the U.S. Attorney General's office seems to be on Black elected officials. Is the attorney general going after Black officials to gain White support should he decide to run for his position in two years?"
Out of time for now. Have a great day.
Rob Ramson
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From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: D.C. Council Chair Brown Resigns, Faces Bank Fraud, Campaign Finance Charges by Valencia Mohammed Special to the AFRO
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
Good Morning everyone,
I am going to let everyone laugh at the "Oreo" comment but it is clear that even though I know you are capable of reading and comprehending, you had a message you wanted to get across. What you described below is totally different than what Kojo was talking about. And trust me, Kojo being from Guyana is quite clear when it comes to Racism. You should call in to the show and ask Kojo about one of the greatest men that Guyana produced - Walter Rodney - then report back on that conversation about Racism.
So while you say - "we constantly hammer them with the message that they are not responsible for their own failings or achievements?" and "Is it really helpful if we teach kids that they are nothing more than victims?" - I would like you to know that we, like all other cultures in the world, we teach our kids the same thing - that they are responsible for their achievements or failings. However, we teach them that in the White world that they have to prove themselves to get equal recognition, they simply work harder and need to do more than their White peer to be looked at as Equal. But Black People know this - what does this say about you?
So your message that you want to convince people of is that there should be no ownership on the White culture for the plight that many impoverished Blacks are suffering through and that it is a "level playing field" where we have equal opportunity. Well it ain't so! Matter of fact, Greed and sheer "rapish" (i know not a word) mentality of the Slave Masters has transcended and now has imposed it's ugly head on all cultures and it is about the "have and Have nots" - so Whites all over are suffering as well. It is like when you look at Black Youth and see them with their tight and sagging pants listening to the unhealthy aspect of Hip Hop, what you don't realize is that this has now infected a lot of White Youth - who are the largest group of consumers or Hip Hop. This is an epidemic that will be the "Chickens Coming Home to Roost" that Malcolm X referenced. Just look outside of this City and you will see.
And for all you "Diverse" people or those who "love Diversity" and wanted to live here in the City because of its "Diversity" - your kids are going to grow up one day as they get to the Dating Age of 14 in the Blink of an eye. Tell me what you as a White Man think about now when you see a young white Girl/Woman with a Black man - especially a beautiful "blonde" - especially being with a Black Boy/Man with Dreds. That is what living in a Diverse area brings. And trust me, it is difficult even when you are not Racist. Take my Dad, even though he wasn't Racist, he couldn't handle seeing his Daughters with Black Men - even though they are 4 of the most impressive men I have ever met in life - by the way, all of them who influenced my life in many positive ways and have been married into the family for 25 - 40+ years. Did I tell you I am Mr. Progressive and Mr. Diversity for 43 years. Even as my Father knew of their great character as men, it was difficult for him especially facing the Indian Circle of Friends that was half of his friendship circle. Chew on that for a day or so and understand that this is not about you "Oreo/White man Turner and your being a laughable "oreo".
In this City, you will hardly find uneducated Whites and those Whites here should be more concerned about working more closely with their Black Counterparts to help raise the level of Living, Education, Employment Opportunity, etc. for those who are suffering - in DC - it just happens that most of whom are suffering are Black. So while we do have a tremendous amount of both Cultures working on this, we need more of us to be focused on making this "Cause" a reality. That means sacrifice like giving up things like the "Trolley", and focusing most of all infrastructure (primarily dealing with Youth and Employment and Housing) over in Wards 5, 7 and 8.
Quote from the article - that has nothing to do with what you wrote!!!
"What is wrong with this picture is that it seems Blacks are being targeted," said longtime Ward 8 advisory neighborhood commissioner Anthony Muhammad. "Many residents are asking why the focus of the U.S. Attorney General's office seems to be on Black elected officials. Is the attorney general going after Black officials to gain White support should he decide to run for his position in two years?"
Rob Ramson
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:01 AM, jimrturner25 <jimrturner25@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello,
The ANC Commissioner quoted in the article below called in to the Politics Hour yesterday peddling his victimology theories. Kojo and Sherwood dealt with him appropriately by dismissing the caller as completely wrong. The show's host's argued that this sort of view is the worst sort of racism.
I agree that this view is without merit, but I'm not sure that it is racism. "Racism" has gotten to be a word like "fascist" or "Nazi." It has lost all specific meaning and is simply an epithet hurled at an opponent with who one disagrees. I guess the worst thing a person could be called is a racist Nazi fascist. No, the worst thing one could be called is a racist Nazi fascist who supports the designated hitter rule.
The adjectives that should be applied to this sort of view are "patronizing" and "condescending." (Yes, I know those are gerunds and not really adjectives, but quit pretending your William Safire. Geez). The view is patronizing and condescending because it infantilizes Blacks. The view hammers home this lesson: we are not responsible for our own failings, we are victims.
This lesson is corrosive because if we are not responsible for our own failings then we are also not responsible for our own achievements. We are mere bits of cork floating down some river at the mercy of currents and winds that we did not create and cannot control.
I reject this lesson. I accept responsibility for my own mistakes (I've made a few, but, then, too few to mention). I also take credit for my accomplishments (even fewer, but, then, I'll mention them anyway).
Think about it this way: What chance do kids have to excel if we constantly hammer them with the message that they are not responsible for their own failings or achievements? Is it really helpful if we teach kids that they are nothing more than victims?
Let the personal attacks begin!
Here, let me help by starting things off…
Oreo Turner, your do not know WHAT you are talking about!!!!!! You have clearly be expropriated by white imperialist self entitlement thinking and need to come out from behind your WHITE SKIRT so that I can examine your thought processes and I've told you before that forces control everything so that PEOPLE like you cannot understand the realities of the subjected reference points because you are trapped by your own warped THROUGHT PROCESS which is the result of external pressures!!! Answer my questions so that I can explore your thought processes and enlighten you with my psycho-rational analytics that will show you the ERRORS of ….
Jim Turner> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Rob <indianrob@...> wrote:
--- In ward5@yahoogroups.com, Aaron McCormick <aaron.mccormick01@...> wrote:
>
> LOL...but Ron Moten will not win the Republican seat of ward 7, but their
> is word on the street of a write-in candidate....
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
> > **> > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:59 AM, KPW - KAPoW <WKPW3@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Can someone get that Accountability Spreadsheet for all the money that Ron
> > Moten / Peaceholics got. I swear if DC elects this guy, I would really
> > consider moving. Please locate this Spreadsheet so that see the itemized
> > spending of those funds.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> *Excerpt from article*
> >> Other local leaders said Brown's downfall points to a possible trend
> >> present among the federal investigations.
> >>
> >> "What is wrong with this picture is that it seems Blacks are being
> >> targeted," said longtime Ward 8 advisory neighborhood commissioner Anthony
> >> Muhammad. "Many residents are asking why the focus of the U.S. Attorney
> >> General's office seems to be on Black elected officials. Is the attorney
> >> general going after Black officials to gain White support should he decide
> >> to run for his position in two years?"
> >>
> >> http://www.afro.com/sections/news/Washington/story.htm?storyid=75220
> >> D.C. Council Chair Brown Resigns, Faces Bank Fraud, Campaign Finance
> >> Charges
> >> by Valencia Mohammed
> >> Special to the AFRO
> >>
> >>> *Aaron McCormick> >> (Courtesy Photo/Wikimedia)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (June 7, 2012) Washington D.C. Council Chairman Kwame R. Brown
> >> resigned his seat June 6 after he was charged with bank fraud for lying
> >> about his income on loan applications.
> >>
> >> Brown also faces a misdemeanor charge of making an unlawful cash campaign
> >> expenditure in connection with his 2008 re-election campaign for an
> >> at-large council seat.
> >>
> >> Brown, 41, was the youngest man on the council and is fourth D.C. elected
> >> official in recent months to face an investigation into possible
> >> wrongdoing. According to the Associated Press, Brown is expected to plead
> >> guilty to the charges at a hearing June 8.
> >>
> >> Brown was charged with a single count of bank fraud by federal
> >> prosecutors, and resigned following a closed session with the council. The
> >> following day, prosecutors filed the second charge, alleging that Brown
> >> allowed a relative to open a bank account during his 2008 campaign, and
> >> that the relative used campaign funds in September 2009 to make a payment
> >> "in excess of $50."
> >>
> >> A council meeting has been scheduled for June 13 to select an interim
> >> chair.
> >>
> >> According to court records, Brown "knowingly and willfully devised a
> >> scheme and artifice to defraud Industrial Bank to obtain money, funds,
> >> credits, assets, securities, and other property owned."
> >>
> >> A spokesman with the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to comment on the
> >> investigation. Brown's legal counsel, attorney Frederick Cooke Jr., could
> >> not be reached for comment.
> >>
> >> "I've made some serious mistakes in judgment," Brown wrote in a
> >> statement. "This has nothing to do with the council."
> >>
> >> Brown has also been investigation for alleged illegal activities
> >> regarding misuse of campaign funds.
> >>
> >> "The unmitigated gall for an elected official to make laws that put
> >> others in jail while willingly violating them for personal gains," said Ron
> >> Moten, a resident of Ward 7.
> >>
> >> Moten is running as a candidate against Councilwoman Yvette Alexander
> >> (D-Ward 7) who also faced an investigation last year for allegedly misusing
> >> her constituency funds for her campaign. She was cleared of any wrongdoing.
> >>
> >> Former Councilman Harry Thomas Jr. (D-Ward 5) plead guilty to embezzling
> >> $350,000 in federal funds targeted for youth programs, and was sentenced in
> >> May to a 38-month jail term.
> >>
> >> D.C. Mayor Vincent Gray is also under investigation for allegedly paying
> >> a candidate in the 2010 mayoral election to speak out against then-Mayor
> >> Adrian Fenty. The opponent, Sulaimon Brown, claimed he was given money and
> >> promised a lucrative job by Gray in exchange for taunting the incumbent
> >> mayor at forums and other public events during the campaign season.
> >>
> >> Responding to the charge against Brown, Gray in a written statement said
> >> he was "shocked" by the news.
> >>
> >> "I served with him my entire time on the council," said Gray, who
> >> preceded Brown as council chair. "Never would I have imagined something
> >> like this would occur."
> >>
> >> Other local leaders said Brown's downfall points to a possible trend
> >> present among the federal investigations.
> >>
> >> "What is wrong with this picture is that it seems Blacks are being
> >> targeted," said longtime Ward 8 advisory neighborhood commissioner Anthony
> >> Muhammad. "Many residents are asking why the focus of the U.S. Attorney
> >> General's office seems to be on Black elected officials. Is the attorney
> >> general going after Black officials to gain White support should he decide
> >> to run for his position in two years?"
> >>
> >> In accordance with the Home Rule Act, Councilwoman Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3),
> >> the current chair pro tempore, will convene the entire council for a
> >> special meeting June 13 to adopt a resolution to elect an interim chair and
> >> a interim chair pro tempore. Under the Home Rule Act, both positions will
> >> be selected from among the at-large members. After their election, Cheh
> >> will step aside as chair pro tempore. The meeting will be open to the public
> >>
> >> At-Large members Michael Brown, Phil Mendelson, Vincent Orange and David
> >> Catania will compete for the two positions. According to The Washington
> >> Post¸ political insiders said it appeared Mendelson had the support
> >> necessary to become the next council chair.
> >>
> >> Under the Council rules, the interim chair would become Chair of the
> >> Committee of the Whole, and would retain his role as chair of their
> >> existing standing committee. Also, the interim chair cannot hold outside
> >> employment, will be eligible to receive an increase in compensation at the
> >> rate of the chairman, and will serve in that role until a special election
> >> has been held to select a permanent replacement. D.C. Board of Elections
> >> officials said it was not clear when that election might take place.
> >>
> >> "I want to reassure everyone that the work of the Council will continue
> >> uninterrupted," Cheh wrote in a June 6 statement. "We will move forward
> >> focused on the business the people elected us to do."
> >>
> >> D.C. residents met news of the charge against Brown with disappointment.
> >>
> >> "It is unfortunate that the chair is experiencing these difficulties.
> >> However, integrity must play a part in being a public servant," said Debbie
> >> Smith-Steiner, a Ward 5 resident.
> >>
> >> "Lying about your income to buy a house is not uncommon," she added.
> >> "However, what Kwame did was outrageous. Claiming that your $353,000 home
> >> is worth $800,000, then taking the equity to buy a yacht—come on now."
> >>
> >> Weary from all the negative publicity surrounding their elected
> >> officials, others worried whether Congress may take adverse actions against
> >> the District.
> >>
> >> "The walls keep tumbling down," Muhammad said. "Who is next?"
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > R. Ramson
> > 3744 12th Street, N.E.,
> > Washington D.C., 20017
> > 202-438-5988
> >
> > "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
> > (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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>
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