Thursday 23 May 2013

Re: [ward5] Re: Re: [WardFive] A "Fried Chicken" Course

Wendy,
 
Regardless of how Tiger viewed himself as he tried to include his Mother's Culture,
 
1.  What Nationality do You view Tiger Woods to be?
 
2.  What Nationality do you think that most of the World identify Tiger Woods as?
 
Why the apology.  If Sergio didn't believe that his comment was wrong, why did he lose sleep, was sick to his stomach?  Maybe he just realized that his comment was racially linked. 
 
Rob
 


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Wendy Lewis <wendy_lewis2@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

You crack me up!!
I thought I was the ONLY one!

I went to bed last night annunciating
Cablonasian------- um where was the African American in there!???

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.



On May 23, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Tony Humphries <ubalt@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Is tired of Tiger Wood's conveniently BLACK when 'fried chicken' is mentioned.
I know whites, asians, middle easterners, and mongoloids that LIKE chicken.
What makes friend chicken racist IF we all eat it? 
 
The Colonel didnt get rich off black folks buying his food.. neither did Popeyes nor GINOS, HOLLY FARMS, etc.
 
So please stop crying over chicken....
 
 
Tony
 
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
From: RobbyCU@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 23:42:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: Re: [WardFive] A "Fried Chicken" Course

 
Good Morning:

I saw this vid on FB and other places. I understand the purpose, but I don't understand the presence and the motive behind it going viral at this moment in time.  While we're looking at this video, it is a revelation or a distraction. 

Is this video rising on it's own like stem from a volcano, or is it being pushed or hoisted up for us to have a conversation, perhaps even a meaningful one, while those pushing or hoisting can do what they do while we're distracted quixotically.

-Robby



 
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From: Bradley A. Thomas <b-ashton-thomas@verizon.net>
To: wardfive@googlegroups.com; ward5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:37 PM
Subject: [ward5] Re: Re: [WardFive] A "Fried Chicken" Course



No Jerry, you're not to be laughed at and Rob is not to be attacked for exposing this truth.  This is the same experiment that Charles Hamilton Houston, Thurgood Marshall, Spottswood Robinson, and other members of the NAACP legal team conducted in the 1940's to build the cases that led to the famous Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas case, the Supreme Court decision which established that "separate" is inherently "unequal".  Radio talk show host Joe Madison puts it this way:  "We are ALL culturally conditioned to believe that white is superior (e.g. angel food cake, the bride's gown, the harmless little white lie, etc.) black is inferior (e.g. devil's food cake, funeral dresses and suits, the evil black lie, etc.) and the manifestation of that cultural conditioning is that black people are undervalued, underestimated and marginalized." 

This mass inferiority complex is a deadly disease and like any disease, it has to be recognized and diagnosed before it can be treated and cured.  Thanks to both of you for having the courage to discuss this honestly.

Bradley A. Thomas           
 
On 05/22/13, Jerome J. Peloquin<jeromepeloquin@fastmail.fm> wrote:
 
Friends ... I have to weigh in on this, I have no choice, as Rob has placed this squarely into the ongoing debate on tacit racism that exists everywhere and of course here in Brookland.  This is not about being good, or being bad.  It is not about conscious decisions (except in a few cases) it is about the pervasive attitudes and perceptions that are ingrained in our culture, attitudes and opinions that we hold because media, or social environment, and our role models have placed them there.   How could we not?   Anyone born in before the civil rights act and for many, many years thereafter (and ...it still goes on ie; Fuzzy Zeller)  has been inundated with meda, movies, TV. popular culture, blatant racism at all levels of our society.
 
I am a caucasoid mongrel: French, German, Irish, Scotch (at least that, and who knows what else, Poodle maybe? ) yet, like the dolls in the short video  ... I AM WHITE.   Those attitudes we saw were being expressed by young black children ...what would happen if they were white children?   It that video does not open your mind to the power of years of conditioning (mostly unconscious but conditioning none the less)  then nothing else I, or anyone else can say will open your mind and heart to the facts as they are objectively presented to you.
 
I don't beieve Rob is attacking us for being racists.   He is reminding us that racism in an inherent part of our lives and personalities and that some will take advantage of that to push their agenda.  It is in the black community as well ... remember, those babies were black!  How sad is that?  We must stay observant, watch our language as the language of racism is subtle ...   
 
I don't expect a response here.  I expect some will read this and other will laugh at me ...truth is I really just wrote this for my own conscience and to remind me that racism is in me and I need to strive always to cast it out.
 
Jerry on Lawrence
 
 
----- Original message -----
Subject: [WardFive] A "Fried Chicken" Course
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:47:07 -0400
 
Good Afternoon,
 
What has really changed over the last 20 years from Fuzzy Zeller's Racist towards Tiger Woods.  Sergio Garcia (pro-golfer) said he wasn't even aware of the "fried chicken" comment made years earler by Fuzzy Zeller, but somehow has the same thought process of what is "customary food" fit for a African American.  Can the remark be anything but racist?  And does that same thought process reside within many other cultures towards African Americans.  From an East Indian Perspective, it does for the most part and this "fried chicken" comment is only the tip of a huge iceburg!!!!   
 
In light of the Sergio Garcia remarks about inviting Tiger Woods to dinner and serving Fried Chicken, I am sharing a very sad but real video of how imaging from a subliminal to visual perspective starts at a very young age.  From a larger perspective, how does this imaging manifests even in a most professional arenas and in mature adults. Do we ignore this or just live in denial? 
 
Just imagine how many attacks our black kids suffer (throughout their day) on their self image simply because they are Black.  Then our kids are expected to perform equal to with subpar environmental, educational opportunities, dietary and financial support or reinforcement.  Even at a basic level of building a Futuristic Middle School here in Brookland -- we build an "art" school for our under-performing kids, we refuse to even understand how important it is to properly provide a Football/Soccer Field for our children to recreate; Sub-Par to say the least!! 
 
After viewing the video, no one should ever argue subsidizing our children in any way.
 
 

             

    
 
  
 
  
 
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