1. Why don't we have a public meeting with everyone so you and everyone else can feel "Safe"!
2. Bring along a copy of everything that I have ever written that you have a question about - I know that is on record!!
3. Ask the general public about my answers and see how many share the same thoughts and feelings.
4. See the Ratio of Black to White who Share My Feelings and those who Validate yours. Do you think that a African American Community would stand by and let a Non African American say the things that I do if it was not TRUE! Seriously! That is because we as Black People of the World have a common Pan African approach to life - Have Don Padou/Jim Turner Crow ask KOJO about that. Tell KOJO to tell you who RAMSON is in Guyana. You can go on the Internet and see my STOCK!! We have seen this exact colonization, racism, depletion of resources and division before. AIN'T nothing NEW UNDER THE SUN!! Go Read the Book - How Europe Underdeveloped Africa and you will see Walter Rodney's depth on this exact Brookland / Ward 5 / Washington DC colonization process. The difference here is that some of us will try to make sure that in 2012, we are more inclusive and not sacrifice the "natives" - especially our "Diamonds in the rough" - our Youth!! That's why my daughter at 39 months is in training to help others deal with the rest when I die. That's why at 3, she adds to 8, counts to 150, count to 100 by 5's, reads level three books in "I can read series", spells over 40 words, can identify Diagraphs, Blends and more and has a personality like her father! So even if I die today, the foundation is set and my Wife is on it and my sisters won't let her fail!! And while I am alive, I am going to do everything I can to create that opportunity for every child possible so that they can have the best foundation possible. And identifying all the Oppressors and the Oppressive Language out here is a major part of it. Just know that I have made the decision to eat rocks to make this community a better place for all of us and the second you put some GARBAGE on the internet, I will identify it. And for real, you should be sending me money to make this place safer for the you's in this neighborhood because more than likely (can't say never), you will be attacked before I will!! Trust that!
Anyways, The true problem that you and many others are having is that it is very difficult when someone exposes the things that you and others are saying that is FLAMING to US. That is why I am not moderated. Look through your records and see for yourself. I take your words and show you exactly what you are saying. Many of things that I often identify are the most insensitive things but yet when identified and corrected, you become silent. Like a White man posing to be Black. Like telling people to use pepper spray instead of asking for more information before jumping to conclusions - that is violent as this wasn't a Robbery or Burglary!!! Like using the word "caveat" and being condescending using the word "succinct" when clearly I understand English Language and the Math that is involved. SO DO MANY OTHERS in the COMMUNITY - I am not the only one with a Brain and and Education and upbringing!! Imagine I have to tell you how to communicate with/compensate your neighbor for shoveling your snow!! I have to teach the difference between Metaphor and Hyperbole. I could go on for ever - I should be more harsh in response to the improper use of the English Language and lack of Cognitive use of your brain on this listserv - and I am not the only one who see this - Lots of people recognize the racist attitude laced in the writing on these list Servs!!
So you know, there are lots of Whites and Blacks who patronize the Cafe and the Inn. When we (all of us) discuss the listserv, we share the same thoughts of the lack of your insensitivity and the racist laced language. So instead of thanking me, you rather AVOID the truth because it stings!!
As to yesterday, I always want to know both sides before condemning. We still haven't got an answer from the "plaintiff" other than the youth just walked up unprovoked and stabbed the truck and stoned the house. Where is the husband in this - still silent!! No one wants anyone hurt and we are all elated that the family is safe - ESPECIALLY the WIFE and CHILDREN. SHE sounds Innocent in this. As it stands, I don't know what was done (if anything) by the husband and so I don't know if a reaction was warranted - without the knife.
So you know, if you touch me or anyone with the intent to harm, I believe in beating you as soon as possible or die trying so that you get the point that you are not my father or mother. You can call me all the names but youth often don't have that discernment as I didn't as a youth myself. If you did something to me or my friend, at 16, I would have stoned your house as well and so would many others. And believe me, our Youth are not stupid - they know whether their White neighbors are good/cool or not - not specific to this last family. They can feel your racism. Many of you should come out on the playground and say the things you do and see how our Youth responds.
The Irony in this is that I have been threatened, called names, maligned, on this internet and even worse in public. I could drag so many into court and really create disharmony in our community. Imagine my mother at 89 and my family having to understand that somehow some ____________ in this neighborhood are telling folks that I sell drugs, money launder, run a prostitution ring, abuse my child, and the list goes on. Yet, I stand more firm against all those things to the point I risk my life to get that away from anywhere I am. To the point that the youth in the neighborhoods that I lived and who know me still call me MR. ROB; even though they are Grown Men - How many of you get that respect?
What is pathetic about people like the "YOU's" is I don't see you condemning those "wonderful" people who have cost me money and maligned me. So you know, the only time that I used the "violent" words "Slap" was to Debbbie Smith Steiner and I don't hear her complaining - she and I are friends so she understood the Jovial gesture. As for the rest of you, I understand the double standard so I have to watch my words so that you can't say that I "threatened" you so you have to utilize words like "invective" and flaming. But at any time, you can start being fair and start identifying all the violence and insensitive use of language out here. If you only knew how FLAMING so much of your language and thoughts are - I have only identified the tip of the iceberg! Imagine how rotten some of your cores are!!
What most of you don't get is that you should be thankful that I don't ride the fence even at the COST of INCOME. I know that some Whites like yourself are going to Boycott the Cafe and the Inn. But that is a small price to pay for freedom. Like I said - lets have a public meeting and see how many Blacks and some Whites share my feelings and thoughts. Do you know that the Black People who Work at those businesses would tell you that they feel the same way. ASK JERRY PELOQUIN. So you know, my family including those same BLACK Brother-in-Laws who helped raise me - they prepared me - I am ready. This aspect of colonization is not new to me. You see, Whites like you are accustomed to hurting people financially so as to oppress. The seeds that I have planted in your brains WILL GROW - in most of you, it will be positive and in the rest of you racist cored folks, it will eat you alive like cancer and your own people will see the GLOW of RACISM when you open your mouth or write!
By the way, you and the rest should be thankful to the Police for detoxing the situation that night as if an arrest would have been made at that time, that family would not have been safe. They did their job in the best interest of everyone and contained the atmosphere and they have enough information to follow up. Unless the people involved (which includes the Husband at this time as a possible instigator in this matter) leave the Planet, the investigation will occur and we will all find out the outcome. But you see, with all the comments, there is so much depth to the smallest of incidents and comments. Where there is smoke, I will fan it to identify the fire so that we can expose the source.
Imagine all that crap many of you talk and probably combined, you don't contribute to this community in the positive manner that I do. You need to stop resisting and listen to logic and help make create the proper environment for the same youth that we are discussing as it is the crimes that they may commit before the police arrive that you may never recover from. HEED my OUTLOOK!!! Resistance is futile - ME, you or someone close to you or I may be the next "victim" and pepper spray don't stop bullets!!!
Yoda Rob - So smart you are not as to life's true realities!! Sure as it is raining, crimes will occur. Let's focused on prevention!
Your "Trolling" Neighbor,
Rob Ramson
PS. Jackie be fair and forward this to your Prejudiced "moderating" Listserv. Tell them I am talking about some dogs or cats or some infestation that we have here in Brookland.
If you are a frequent reader of this listserv, and have posted almost anything dealing with our community, you have been attacked, sometimes threatened, accused to being a racist (regardless of your ethnicity, which I hope no one feels they need to share in order to express an opinion), and subjected to rants. Moderators: Now may be the time to pull the plug. My apologies to any new residents who may think this is Brookland's character, it isn't. Jackie
--- In Brookland@yahoogroups.com, "johndelicath" <jonwdeli@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your typically long-winded and obfuscating messages, Rob.
> Your "contributions" to this incident here are especially ridiculous. They are also outrageous and offensive. I can only imagine how they might effect people's interest in frequenting your business.
>
> John
> on Lawrence
>
>
> --- In Brookland@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Marshall <shannon.hughs@> wrote:
> >
> > This response lacks any sort of constructive contribution to the original
> > issue.
> > You mention several times how proud you are of your fairness and kindness.
> > Though throughout this thread, you are the one that has introduced
> > comments like "drug dealing monkey" and that people are only now paying
> > attention because mobs of teenagers are throwing rocks at White people's
> > houses. I don't know the people involved in this incident, so I couldn't
> > comment on the race of either.
> > It stood out to me that you brought that into your argument, for which, I
> > could only conclude that you must know Terri, since she was the plaintiff
> > and it was her house hit with rocks. If you know her, why didn't you just
> > ask her about the version of events? If you do not know her, why would you
> > assume she is White?
> > The rest of your email is basic gobbledygook, that I chose not to spend
> > time deciphering. I don't even know what a "drug dealing monkey" is. So,
> > per your example, I'll just look it up in the ol dictionary and post it
> > somewhere for folks to reference.
> >
> > That said, I'll unsubscribe now to this posting, because it's gotten way
> > off track. Terri, thank you very much for sharing and keeping us updated.
> > I appreciate your sharing, and very happy that your family is safe. As
> > with other posts shared by neighbors, I've learned new things, and
> > appreciate the constructive conversation that helps us to make our
> > community safer.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Rob <indianrob@> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Shannon,
> > >
> > > Thanks for *now* *including that the husband may know something that he
> > > is not telling.* Much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Now as to your "succinct" way of expressing *"I know several DC law
> > > enforcement officers personally, each of whom I have the highest respect.
> > > If they haven't heard about this (and with no disrespect) if these are
> > > the actual version of events, I assure you that they would be equally
> > > appalled"*, I can only surmise from this that you were referring to the
> > > Officers Lack of "appropriate" response as to Terri's charge of no real
> > > response/ramification of *someone having a "concealed weapon, stabbing a
> > > vehicle and others stoning a house"*! *Everything* in what you said in
> > > those two sentences had to *specifically/singularly do with the police's
> > > reaction* (inclusive to "and with no disrespect"), *your support of the
> > > existence of good policing (thank you*) and Terri version of the Knife,
> > > rock racial slurs incident! *Nothing you said referenced the possibility
> > > that her husband may know something that he is not telling! *
> > >
> > > The word "Version" in your statement *references the one side* and only
> > > those events listed by Terri actually taking place. So you know, by
> > > definition (see below)
> > > *Version* | Define *Version* at Dictionary.com<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/version>
> > > dictionary.reference.com/browse/*version*
> > > a particular account of some matter, as from one person or source,
> > > contrasted with some other account: two different *versions* of the
> > > accident.
> > >
> > > My apologies for not being as *SUCCINCT* as you but as this "drug dealing
> > > " "monkey" swings on the education vine, my brain is obviously not fully
> > > evolved as yet to discern your abridged version of the English Language.
> > > Today, I only able to read Babboonese. Orangatanese, Gorrillese, and other
> > > related dialects so forgive me if I read what was written and not your
> > > mind! My mistake as I should have recognized and adjusted.
> > >
> > > Now, as to the location -* it occurred around 10th and Evarts. *
> > >
> > > It is a shame that *NOW*, we have neighbors concerned about an angry Mob
> > > of Rock Throwers led by a 16 year old Girl with a knife who may be "going
> > > through the neighborhood stabbing vehicles and throwing Rocks at White
> > > People's houses. Had the story been written more fair that "........
> > > incident happened to us and no real action taken by police on scene because
> > > we were incorrectly blamed for .............. against the 16 year old Girl
> > > wielding a knife", then the story becomes more believable. But Youth
> > > sticking around for the cops to show, this just didn't add up with the
> > > "innocent" way it was reported.
> > >
> > > Like I explained today to someone, if this was a robbery or a break in or
> > > something that is in the *obvious non-provoked category,* then I wouldn't
> > > be asking those questions. So even though this could be non-provoked, it
> > > seems strange. Anyone not on that wavelength of thought needs to align
> > > their brain to default to finding out more and not automatically suggesting
> > > "pepper spray" or becoming alarmed about a "mob" stabbing of their vehicle
> > > and stoning their home!
> > >
> > > Like I said, glad everyone is physically OK. It is quite possible that
> > > this happened with no provocation but as I initially asked, *"What was
> > > the reason for this 16 year old coming after this man and his truck and
> > > throwing rocks at the house"? "Maybe Terri will share that since she
> > > included us into her life"?* *At least tell us what the accusation was
> > > if there was one?* Crucify me for wanting to know if there are missing
> > > variables to the story!!
> > >
> > > Last, remember me telling everyone that we need to fully focus our
> > > infrastructure on creating an educational/recreational/job environment to
> > > encourage our youth/returning citizens to be able to at least understand
> > > Geometry and Algebra on their way to being able to be qualified to earn a
> > > decent wage; increasing pride and being able to provide for their family.
> > > These types of reactions will be at an increased occurrence when the brain
> > > is less functional from lack of education and opportunity (obviously not to
> > > say that educated minds don't get to this level of anger as well). At
> > > least, let's focus on lowering the Ratio of occurrence.
> > >
> > > Rob Ramson
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Shannon Marshall <
> > > shannon.hughs@> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello Rob, if you'll notice from this excerpt from my email, I included a
> > >> caveat in my post.
> > >>
> > >> I know several DC law enforcement officers personally, each of whom I
> > >> have the highest respect. If they haven't heard about this (and with no
> > >> disrespect) *if these are the actual version of events*, I assure you
> > >> that they would be equally appalled.
> > >>
> > >> It was just a more succinct way to let you know that "my reaction does
> > >> leave room open that the husband may know something that he is not telling
> > >> just like some of us will leave room open that this 16yr old Girl and 20
> > >> others are just all crazy."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Rob <indianrob@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello Shannon,
> > >>>
> > >>> Are you not at all concerned WHY THIS YOUNG GIRL IS REACTING THIS WAY?
> > >>> Let's look at these statements from the wife and think about it;
> > >>>
> > >>> - "*We have a mob of youth that essentially just rioted**,* were in
> > >>> possession of at least one deadly weapon and what are we supposed to do
> > >>> about it?"
> > >>>
> > >>> Are they all "Crazy"?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -* "while waiting for the police to show*, things got uglier because
> > >>> the group started to swell in size to about 20 kids and they began throwing
> > >>> rocks at our house".
> > >>>
> > >>> Which group of youth does this?? No youth waits on the police to arrive
> > >>> - they usually run!!
> > >>>
> > >>> - "my children are now asking me *why bad people don't get in trouble*.
> > >>> Can you please tell me so that I can give them an answer?" No one can
> > >>> answer that until we know why the young Girl reacted in the manner she
> > >>> did. I know that lots of people share this sentiment - you should really
> > >>> ask your husband why! For sure if my wife came home and a woman was at our
> > >>> house stabbing my vehicle, and others are stoning my house, She would be
> > >>> asking me some serious questions!!! But as sure as Terri is willing to
> > >>> tell her kids about these "Bad People", I hope if it turns out that her
> > >>> husband did something to this "girl" then Terri should be willing to tell
> > >>> her kids about what their Daddy did.
> > >>>
> > >>> But Shannon, just tell me that your reaction does leave room open that
> > >>> the husband may know something that he is not telling just like some of us
> > >>> will leave room open that this 16yr old Girl and 20 others are just all
> > >>> crazy.
> > >>>
> > >>> Rob
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Shannon Marshall <
> > >>> shannon.hughs@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> **
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd also like to know where this occurred. The fact that pepper spray
> > >>>> has to be introduced as an option because the police did not handle this in
> > >>>> a way in which the residents felt safe, is such a sad reflection of the
> > >>>> protection we've been promised/paid for.
> > >>>> I know several DC law enforcement officers personally, each of whom I
> > >>>> have the highest respect. If they haven't heard about this (and with no
> > >>>> disrespect) if these are the actual version of events, I assure you that
> > >>>> they would be equally appalled.
> > >>>> I have a 21 month old daughter. If I came home to that and my husband
> > >>>> was not home, what would my choice be? Run to take her inside (so she'd be
> > >>>> alone) to address the issue? Do I entertain the idea of my own concealed
> > >>>> weapon? Or do I just fight back while holding a baby?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I truly appreciate the efforts of so many of the law enforcement
> > >>>> officers in the city. Personally, I do not support Cathy Lanier, so I have
> > >>>> serious doubts about any direction that she gives her officers. Though I
> > >>>> do have faith that a large majority know how to conduct their jobs with the
> > >>>> upmost professionalism.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sadly, you have to make the instant decision to get your kids in the
> > >>>> house safely, or confront them. Of course you are going into your house,
> > >>>> but in doing so, you expect the DCPD to resolve the matter with appropriate
> > >>>> discipline.
> > >>>> Even MY MOTHER would have disciplined me with greater intensity (MUCH
> > >>>> MORE INTENSITY) than it seems like the officers did in this case, with
> > >>>> these offenders.
> > >>>> I hate that I have to consider a mindset of "protection" from my
> > >>>> neighbors rather than the enjoyment of meeting and socializing with all of
> > >>>> them. Who would be comfortable with that if they hear that police are
> > >>>> called, yet the officers do more to excuse bad behavior than they do to
> > >>>> to deter a pack mentality that forces needless destruction and intimidation
> > >>>> onto neighbors for whom they likely do not even know?
> > >>>> So sorry to hear Terry, and please keep us updated as this evolves.
> > >>>> Thankful that your family is safe.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Derek Swanson <biglobstah@>wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> **
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sounds pretty scary! What part of the neighborhood did this occur?
> > >>>>> Brookland hardware sells pepper spray; you and your husband might consider
> > >>>>> buying a can or two.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Derek Swanson
> > >>>>> On Irving
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from mobile phone.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Jun 10, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Terri Nostrand <terri.nostrand@>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Captain Solberg,
> > >>>>> A 16 year old female with a concealed weapon (a pointy, serrated steak
> > >>>>> knife) just repeatedly stabbed my husband's truck. The girl and the mob of
> > >>>>> people with her didn't know my husband was in the yard. He yelled at her
> > >>>>> and asked her what she was doing. She came towards the fence with the knife
> > >>>>> out. Then, while waiting for the police to show, things got uglier because
> > >>>>> the group started to swell in size to about 20 kids and they began throwing
> > >>>>> rocks at our house.
> > >>>>> When the cops showed they initially didn't believe my husband that the
> > >>>>> girl had a knife. They searched her and found it in her possession. They
> > >>>>> spoke to her, but did not detain or arrest her. Please help me understand
> > >>>>> why police found someone with a concealed weapon, menacing and defacing
> > >>>>> someone's private property and they just released her like that? Or a large
> > >>>>> group of them threatening us and stoning our house and they just told them
> > >>>>> to move along?
> > >>>>> I came home with my young children in the middle of the police
> > >>>>> speaking with the girl. I was verbally accosted while I shuffled my kids
> > >>>>> into the house. The advice I was given was to not engage with them so that
> > >>>>> it doesn't escalate. I simply came home and was called all sorts of racial
> > >>>>> slurs- all in front of the cops. I don't know how I can do less to engage
> > >>>>> that just quickly walking into my house. We have a mob of youth that
> > >>>>> essentially just rioted, were in possession of at least one deadly weapon
> > >>>>> and what are we supposed to do about it? We were told to call if they do it
> > >>>>> again. I guess we just wait until things get "really" dangerous?
> > >>>>> Having witnessed the tail end and hearing about the weapon my children
> > >>>>> are now asking me why bad people don't get in trouble. Can you please tell
> > >>>>> me so that I can give them an answer?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Terri Nostrand
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Shannon Marshall
> > >>>> 202 329-8892 c
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> R. Ramson
> > >>> 3744 12th Street, N.E.,
> > >>> Washington D.C., 20017
> > >>> 202-438-5988
> > >>>
> > >>> "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
> > >>> (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Shannon Marshall
> > >> 202 329-8892 c
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > R. Ramson
> > > 3744 12th Street, N.E.,
> > > Washington D.C., 20017
> > > 202-438-5988
> > >
> > > "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
> > > (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Shannon Marshall
> > 202 329-8892 c
> >
>
__._,_.___Brookland Rocks !!!!
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3744 12th Street, N.E.,
Washington D.C., 20017
202-438-5988
"We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi-
(Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow)
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