Robby,
Please Read. No one is rallying against tax incentives or development. I just think that when people (whether you are the editor of the Georgetowner (I think) - who is White and I think makes lots of sense) or you are the "average" joe takes the time to read and disect the Bill and make suggestions to improve it to make much more sense, that CM's should implement some or all of their hard work. Have some respect for their work that makes bills much more beneficial for our City and stop allowing for all the loopholes in them. They were all suggestions from diverse individuals that makes sense just like many of us have lots to offer - go figure.
And this is only one of the hearings on bills and funds. Anyways - look at this statement that you just made - "I ask that the Ward 5 community respect diversity of opinions" - REALLY DUDE!!! What is this nonsense you are pushing. Here you go trying to be divisive again. While we want to respect "diversity of opinions" we don't have to accept "diverse opinions" that are selfish or cored to racism or oppressive, etc in nature. We ain't stupid - while some might be fooled by your language, I and others understand this rhetoric that you are spewing. I won't allow you to continue to validate any of this oppressive and slick mentality that is out here with your/their agenda - whatever it is.
I told you that you need to keep your discussions for the kids in your sandbox. Anyways, I don't have anymore time for you today. So you know - all those Bills are just like those trees that you are referencing - Look and sound good but are weak all throughout. Good Luck.
Rob
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:20 PM, RobbyCU <RobbyCU@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good Afternoon All:I think we need to await the facts in this instance. I don't think we need to use this opportunity to rail against tax incentives or development. We need not be premature, or myopic. Running the District of columbia is complex, perhaps more complex than rocket science.I understand Rob and other's here may call me naive or talk down to me in another way for the above statements. However, I ask that the Ward 5 community respect diversity of opinions. I am asking, knowing full well it's just an aspiration.Mayor Gray is in a quagmire, the city is on the crest of electing Chair Mendelson who many of the papers are predicting he will become Mayor following Gray's resignation, and so our long political nightmare is far from over. Lost in that cesspool, are regular every day issues. Every ANC is up for reelection and we still have some seats for which no petitions have even been picked up. The Mayor and Council matters, but so do ANCs and civic leaders. We need to encourage good people to take leadership positions, and once we do, we need not deify them.The District is not and will never be a state barring a constitutional amendment. That is unlikely, so the best we have is the Home Rule Charter and our political dignity. The former needs remform and the latter needs rebuilding.I think the character issues are where we should be focused rather than on perennial boogymen like Developers, Street Cars, Tax Incentives, or even the WaPO editorial page.If we don't we'll end up like many of the trees that befell the storms, appearing strong, but will continue to be rotten on the inside.Robby, in isolation.___________________________________________
"In everything you do. Always be yourself"- Lee Hall, Billy ElliotNixon Farewell Speech to Whitehouse Staff:
From: Rob <indianrob@gmail.com>
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com; Ward 5 Google Groups <wardfive@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: The Constitution: part 2
Good Afternoon,Whether it is this Mayor and CM or any other Mayor and CM, we need to figure out how to be included into the decision making process. So, Follow Closely as every decision is going to continue to trickle down like toxic waste seeping into our waterways over the years, affecting us in one way or another!!!How about Our Mayor should start doing his Job and stop selling out to developers and funders. I am willing to bet that if Mayor Gray took some advice and DIRECTION from people who actually ran a business or people who will not financially benefit from the decision being made, there would be some very different approaches to final decisions being made; unless he really doesn't care. Some of those decisions remind me of our Stimulus money being put in the hands of corporations to trickle down and it never did.Not much different here in our City that our Mayor and his people around him, together seem to be making decisions that are contrary to the City Overall Best Interest. I am sure that if our Officials take everyone's concerns and guidance into consideration and implement the often offered refining suggestions (by so many), our City would be make much better decisions. I often see people testifying to CM's about bills with suggestions that makes sense and it seems like they mostly just get dismissed.There was a bill that kept a "technology" (Living Social) company in the city with $25+mil of incentives that a few people testified to refining the bill, but the faces and attitude of the CMs present was dismissing. I bet if we review all the analysis from the hearing, suggestions and advice that was given by those who wanted to enhance the bill, we would probably see that the suggestions and advice was not implemented. We would probably also see some campaign donations!!Whether any of you agree with me about the Street Car issue, we would all agree that this entire H Street Project including Street Cars was not thought out properly. This lack of thought is symptomatic of the consistant lack of thought that is often put into most, if not all of the decisions that are being made. I am willing to bet that if every decision is allowed to be open to the public, all of the necessary pitfalls would be listed.Hear Clearly - Whether we argue for or against an issue, we all list variables that would benefit the final decision. However, our important enhancing suggestions/information and direction are often/never included/implemented as it/they might not benefit Our "Leaders" reasoning and their intent no matter how logical the suggetion/direction/information is. As soon as our Govt. Officials (especially our CM's and Mayor) take their agenda, campaign donors, VP positions, Partner positions, family members jobs and all other fringe benefits out of the decision and allow the Public to help refine the direction of our Bills/Laws/Contracts/grants, the sooner we will have the type of Progressive community that will make us a true community.Running this City is not Rocket Science - we just have some very selfish individuals in leadership position. Put the right rules and operating procedure into place and I guarantee we would all benefit more. Hard to imagine that they refuse to put the parameters into place to limit the ability to fleece! Hard to watch them not take the advice and guidance of so many who take the time to perform due diligence on the Bills being proposed.Rob Ramson.
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 12:10 PM, kingjulianne@yahoo.com <kingjulianne@yahoo.com> wrote:
Agreed
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Subject: [ward5] Re: The Constitution: part 2
Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 11:29 AM
Best thing I have heard so far.
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> Subject: [ward5] The Constitution: part 2
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> The Constitution: part 2
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> JO-ANN ARMAO
> JULY 19, 2012
> BY: ROBERT VINSON BRANNUM
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> The recent interview by a member of the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia (USAtty/DC) reveals not the dedication of the office to root out government corruption, but rather strongly indicates the USAtty/DC cannot bring charges and will not bring charges against Mayor Vincent C. Gray.
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> If the USAtty/DC had a winnable case it would not be conducting newspaper interviews regarding an on-going investigation. And because the USAtty/DC may not be able to present and prove a case against Mayor Grayin a court of law, it has chosen to convict him without presenting charges in the court of public opinion.
> Any good defense lawyer wisely advises his client, particularly a high-profile one to remain silent to preserve and protect all Constitutional rights. It is up to the government to make a charge and to prove its case.
> However, while Ms. Jo-Ann Armao and The Washington Post believe journalists must have protection from lawsuits and demands or documents and records, they evidently do not believe individuals should be accorded similar protections available under the United States Constitution. How shameful and reprehensible.
> The Washington Post poll showing a majority of District residents want Mayor Gray is untrustworthy, facially dishonest, and skewed to receive its desired results. Ms. Armao and The Washington Post display the height of intellectual arrogance when they demand the people should be respected because of the results of this poll; yet they editorialize the people's views on issues like District public education reform and school closings should be ignored.
> It is obvious Ms. Armao, The Washington Post, and columnists who do not have any intellectual connection to the people of the District of Columbia are on a newspaper mission to perform a mayoral coup.
> Ms. Armao and The Washington Post believe they have created a perfect storm to run Mayor Gray from office. They argue because they act like bullies on the playground and have been calling Mayor Gray all kinds of names and he has refused to respond their antics that he should leave the playground to them. Nuts.
> Ms. Armao, The Washington Post, and many other journalists laugh and grin at the concept the Constitution does protect persons who are not journalists and does not require anyone to speak to them or to be afraid of them. Ms Armao and The Washington Post are on the unethical receiving end of selected leaks which they publish anonymously to damage Mayor Gray. Isn't this evidence of a corrupt and unethical editorial board?
> By the way when did Mr. Harold Meyerson and Mr. Dana Milbank become so knowledgeable on District politics? When did they start going to community meetings across the District?
> Ms. Armao and The Washington Post are not supporters of Mayor Gray and have a particular interest in dividing the city and promoting political polarization. The real interest of Ms. Armao andThe Washington Post is to intimidate and to scare.
> Ms. Armao and The Washington Post have been pressuring the USAtty/DC to charge Mayor Gray with anything related to his 2010 mayoral campaign. However, Ms. Armao and The Washington Post do not have the patience to wait for the slow wheels of justice to grind.
> The following is a quote from the website of the USAtty/DC:
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> "The United States Attorney is the representative not of an ordinary party to a controversy, but of a sovereignty whose obligation to govern impartially is as compelling as its obligation to govern at all; and whose interest, therefore, in a criminal prosecution is not that it shall win a case, but that justice shall be done. As such, he is in a peculiar and very definite sense the servant of the law, the twofold aim of which is that guilt shall not escape or innocence suffer. He may prosecute with earnestness and vigor -- indeed, he should do so. But, while he may strike hard blows, he is not at liberty to strike foul ones. It is as much his duty to refrain from improper methods calculated to produce a wrongful conviction as it is to use every legitimate means to bring about a just one."
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> The USAttyDC cannot hold up its professional integrity - clearly something Ms. Armao and The Washington Post lack - in the fight against government corruption and do an end run around the constitutional rights of Mayor Gray.
> The hypocrisy of Ms. Armao and The Washington Post on the principle of respecting due process, justice, and fairness is obvious. The leaks from the USAtty/DC need to be plugged and investigated. If not, it shows the USAtty.DC was purposely releasing information on the investigation.
> The United States Attorney for the District of Columbia should not become the devil it despises and succumb to the political trickery of Ms. Jo-Ann Armao and The Washington Post.
> E-mail contact information; rbrannum@...
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