Wednesday 14 November 2012

[WardFive] Re: [ward5] Re: Spingarn HS to be Closed

Mr. Lee,
 
Thank you.  The problem with the Jared's around us is that they are tied to the hip with the Hannity's (Fox 5's) of the world.  Right now they are having a tough time locating President Obama's Birth Certificate -- still looking after 5 years!!!  Interesting though as I can produce Whites who share my thoughts and will have the same arguments I have against the Jareds (he and his neighbors he talked with)  -- I would like to see Jared bring some Black Folks who would support him. 
 
Rob.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM, RICK LEE <ricklee1923@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Well said KPW!!
 
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From: KPW <WKPW3@aol.com>
To: ward5@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:17 PM

Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: Spingarn HS to be Closed
 
once again, this listserv is not for the faint of heart and it requires people to be liberal with the delete button.  we gain and lose people on this listserv all the time because of strong opinions.  people that have something to say should say it and not be intimidated, at least within parameters.  i'm not a person that tends to focus on race a lot and am uncomfortable talking about it a lot though i do stray into the subject from time to time.  we all present from our different experiences, lifestyles, perspectives, passions and so forth.

but today it's on.  we're talking about the passion for learning and ensuring that this and the next generation benefit greatly from our schools.

kpw
-----Original Message----- From: Aaron McCormick <aaron.mccormick01@gmail.com> To: ward5 <ward5@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 3:10 pm Subject: Re: [ward5] Re: Spingarn HS to be Closed
 
Well many of us on here wish to here your point and needs your help ensuring that your school and many school will remain open do not be silent we need everyone on this matter as there are many in Ward 3 who are helping out so please speak up!....loveit
 
aaron
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:04 PM, jaredtmeyer <jaredthomasmeyer@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Don't be disheartened! The majority of us on the community listserves stay silent to avoid being harassed by him, but that doesn't mean we all think like him. Of all the neighbors I've met and talked about the listserves with, all of them have been of the same mind.
You literally can't have a conversation about any topic without the threat of him coming after you personally and tossing racial incendiaries your way. It really is best to ignore him, and certainly never engage in conversation with him. The moderator is content to have him on the list, so he's not going anywhere. The best you can do is take Mark Twain's advice on who never to argue with.
--- In mailto:ward5%40yahoogroups.com, Matt Ashburn <matt@...> wrote: > > Just to recap: > > -I state that Spingarn has high truancy rates and that it's closing, and > wonder if DCPS will sell it to a charter school > > -Rob asks if I have kids, & brings race into the issue > > -I state that over 40% of Spingarn students missed a month of school each > year, that DCPS has a lot of faults, and ask where fault lies for kids not > attending school > > -Rob implies I've had a privileged life, and suggests I learn what it's > like to live a tough life, a la "Trading Places" and that I spend time > volunteering in the community. He also states (falsely) that I suggested > that DCPS sell the school to developers. > > -I reply that I haven't lived a privileged life, was homeless for a few > months as a kid with both parents out of work, and that my parents made me > attend school regardless. I also state that I do a lot of community > work, citing 6 hours yesterday working with the homeless as an example > > -Rob says that my time as homeless kid wasn't good enough for him, and that > I should have worked 12 hours with the homeless yesterday instead of 6. > And, said that I somehow don't show empathy by trying to counter his > nonsensical rants. And then something about politicians and money, I think. > > With exchanges like this, I have no doubt as to why Ward 5 isn't moving > forward. I still believe that parents should help make sure kids attend > schools, which was my original statement. > > Matt > > > >
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Rob <indianrob@...> wrote: > > > **
> > > > > > Matt, > > > > "my parents were out of work and my family was homeless for a few months > > when I was about 12". > > > > Matt, this is the kind of WHITE BullSh*t that makes the Black Community > > Cringe that you can make this comparison. Try being born into it or in and > > out of it that it seems like that is the NORM. And you had PARENTS -- > > with S attached to the word PARENT. And you were 12. And it was for a FEW > > MONTHS -- ARE YOU DRUNK or need a better barometer?? > > > > LAUGH -- You mentioning this as a "hard time" is exactly what I talk > > about!! The more you keep talking, the more you expose yourself. But this > > is the same mentality that many White folks have in this city as a > > comparison. Like I said - End of Jim Crow Laws without understanding how > > it has evolved. > > > > You don't have to come from "privileged" but you sure don't come from the > > "hood" and didn't grow up in it or around it. The problem is that you are > > not compassionate or empathetic to the situation in some areas or the > > struggles of being from some parts of our City. The > > difference between your Whiteness and the "Blackness" of a few White White
> > friends of mine is that You can't seem to measure things *other than from > > your perch!!* --- A few months -- REALLY!!
> > > > I bet saying that made you feel good about yourself and rightfully so. > > Maybe if you spent 12hrs, you would get it as your comments obviously don't
> > show empathy. *By the way, lots of Drug Dealers give out "turkeys" but > > spend the majority of their time spreading death to generations!!*
> > > > Lots of people who "ribbon cut and open new rec centers and Schools cut > > checks to their "consulting" friends and campaign donors that don't deserve > > it -- at the expense of our kids and others who could have got some real > > benefit from the money. Yet they opened a "rec center" not discussing the > > pilfering that occurred!! > > > > Chew on that for a minute. > > > > Rob > >
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Matt Ashburn <matt@...>wrote: > > > >> **
> >> > >> > >> Rob, > >> > >> Something that most folks don't know- my parents were out of work and my > >> family was homeless for a few months when I was about 12. Even then, my > >> parents made darn sure that I went to school and my family didn't use out > >> hardship wasn't used as an excuse. I know tough times, and it says a lot > >> that you continue to falsely assume that I'm somehow from privilegde due to > >> race or other assumptions. > >> > >> Regarding community involvement, I'm pretty involved as it is- I spent 6 > >> hours yesterday on my day off volunteering and making meals for the > >> homeless. So, I don't need you to belittle me or suggest somehow that I'm > >> not "put to work" enough. > >> > >> Matt > >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Rob <indianrob@...> wrote: > >> > >>> **
> >>> > >>> > >>> Hey Matt, > >>> > >>> Let me put you through what some of those parents have been put through > >>> and see if you have the energy to do any better. Maybe you would but take > >>> a look at "Trading Places" the movie and then talk to me. I am not making > >>> excuses for the parents, just that I would rather focus on what it would > >>> take to bring those kids back to an environment for them to be willing to > >>> learn and feel loved before doing like you suggested -- selling our Real > >>> Estate off to a Charter School. > >>> > >>> So, let me share -- I watched kids jump over the fence to play on the > >>> football field yesterday. I actually made sure that they got over safely > >>> so that I at least knew that they were in an environment that was conducive > >>> to Playing. On a holiday in that Carver Terrace area -- what do you expect > >>> kids to do when everything is locked up -- The bible says -- an idle mind > >>> is the devil's workshop. WE HAVE failed to be proper PLANNERS in the REAL > >>> ESTATE, Failed in the H Street Trolley implementation and just like we have > >>> failed to implement the type of programs for our kids to be interested in > >>> learning as well as playing. We have been lazy in so many ways in how we > >>> approach this education discussion. > >>> > >>> If you want to help, Iet me know. I will put you to work. > >>> > >>> Rob > >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Matt Ashburn <matt@...>wrote: > >>> > >>>> **
> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Rob, > >>>> > >>>> I don't have kids, but I was a kid a few years ago and attended public > >>>> schools and I'd like to see a local high school thrive in the community. > >>>> Unfortunatey, 40% of Spingarn students have missed over a month of school > >>>> due to unexcused absences- that can't all be blamed on the government. > >>>> > >>>> If I'd missed over a month of school as a kid, my parents would have > >>>> been sure to quickly remedy that. > >>>> > >>>> Sure, the DC public schools have a lot of work to do. But, if the > >>>> parents of the students aren't making sure they attend school, where does > >>>> the fault lie for that? > >>>> > >>>> Matt > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Rob <indianrob@...> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> **
> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Matt, > >>>>> > >>>>> Do you have any kids?? Maybe you missed it -- our community does not > >>>>> want this attacking approach on our Public School System -- ask 90% if > >>>>> Black Folks over here. Why would we give away our Prime Real Estate -- a > >>>>> School in a Cluster like this that sits across from a Golf Course, a great > >>>>> football and track and field facility with Tennis and Basketball Courts (in > >>>>> desparate need of renovation) to a Charter School. DCPS should refocus the > >>>>> feeders system to that location and we won't have to spend 100+ Million on > >>>>> renovation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Isn't the Job of Central Office of DCPS to implement a School > >>>>> Curriculum and environment that will encourage students to attend and > >>>>> learn. Where is that program. Maybe we should set the incentive/encourage > >>>>> this enrollment. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rob > >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Matt Ashburn <matt@...>wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> **
> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If true, it's not surprising, unfortunately. It has a long history > >>>>>> of poor performance and a student body that has high truancy. And, the > >>>>>> school has appeared in numerous reports detailing these issues but it > >>>>>> hasn't turned around much. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It's sad to hear this news, but hopefully it will encourage parents > >>>>>> to ensure their children attend their new school. I also wonder what will > >>>>>> become of the school itself- will it be sold to a charter school like the > >>>>>> city did with Webb? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Matt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gigi Ransom <gigifor5c12@...>wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> **
> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Was just informed that Kaya Henderson was at Spingarn HS this > >>>>>>> morning and announced the closing of the school. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Albrette "Gigi" Ransom > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> R. Ramson > >>>>> 3744 12th Street, N.E., > >>>>> Washington D.C., 20017 > >>>>> 202-438-5988 > >>>>> > >>>>> "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi- > >>>>> (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> R. Ramson > >>> 3744 12th Street, N.E., > >>> Washington D.C., 20017 > >>> 202-438-5988 > >>> > >>> "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi- > >>> (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > -- > > R. Ramson > > 3744 12th Street, N.E., > > Washington D.C., 20017 > > 202-438-5988 > > > > "We must become the change we want to see" - Mohandas Gandhi- > > (Together, for a Brighter Tomorrow) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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